Journeyman 12/10/2007 (S01E11) "Home by Another Way"

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  1. Dec 12, 2007 #41 of 101
    Bryanmc

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    Very sad to see this go. :(
     
  2. Dec 12, 2007 #42 of 101
    AJRitz

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    Why would he need a flash? Fast film + fast lens + decent (though not ideal) flourescent lighting should be plenty good enough for a professional photojournalist.
     
  3. Dec 12, 2007 #43 of 101
    Bierboy

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    Another article about the future of Journeyman. There ARE spoilers, so be aware...
     
  4. Dec 12, 2007 #44 of 101
    TIVOSciolist

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    Only the first few episodes were actually partially shot on location in San Francisco. Still, if the series ends, I will miss knowing that they may be around town here.

    San Francisco has been going through a dry spell for on-location movies and TV shows lately. We're not a cheap place to film.
     
  5. Dec 12, 2007 #45 of 101
    ZooCaretaker

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    Didn't the last several weeks show signs of improvement? Isn't it a rotten timeslot? Did NBC promote it as much as other new shows (like Bionic Woman)? IMHO, Journeyman has not been given a fair shot.
     
  6. Dec 12, 2007 #46 of 101
    needo

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    Welcome to NBC. I'll take your coat. :)
     
  7. Dec 12, 2007 #47 of 101
    Kamakzie

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    Rotten time slot and replaced it that one week with Life which was already renewed. I stand by my BIH NBC! :mad:
     
  8. Dec 12, 2007 #48 of 101
    Rob Helmerichs

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    But they kept it in a time slot instead of moving it around, the time slot was (at the beginning of the season) led into by the hottest show on television, and they ran all the episodes in order. My view of promotion is skewed because I don't see a lot of commercials, but I was much more aware of Journeyman than I was of Bionic Woman. NBC is no Fox; I'm afraid this show failed on its own merits.

    (Which is not to say that it's in any way a bad show, just the kind of thing that the American public doesn't seem to warm to. For every Lost that catches on, there are dozens of, well, Journeymans that don't.)
     
  9. Dec 12, 2007 #49 of 101
    dansee

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    Love the show, but I have to agree with Rob on this one. Journeyman got as fair a shot as could be expected, and when NBC DID put Life in that slot, one time, numbers went up.

    Given the target fan base, they could not have a better lead-in than Heroes. The show just didn't catch fire. It happens. A drag... but it happens.
     
  10. Dec 12, 2007 #50 of 101
    unicorngoddess

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    I loved its timeslot. I haven't looked forward to Monday nights this much in a long time. Chuck, Heroes and Journeyman were a get thing for me.

    So, anyway...if its true that NBC is cancling...what do we all send them so they can later decide to bring it back for us??? Nuts have been done.
     
  11. Dec 12, 2007 #51 of 101
    Gunnyman

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    If Studio 60 could get a full season order, Journeyman should have as well.
    I say BIH NBC. :(
     
  12. Dec 12, 2007 #52 of 101
    needo

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    I'm having Studio 60 flashbacks!!
     
  13. Dec 12, 2007 #53 of 101
    wprager

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    How has it failed? How did it do compared to whatever was in this slot last year? How will other shows in this slot do after the strike is over?

    My beef with NBC is their trigger happy finger on the "Cancel" button. Think back to all the shows that did not become a hit until the second or third season: Hill Street Blues, Cheers, Seinfeld.
     
  14. Dec 12, 2007 #54 of 101
    JYoung

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    Studio 60 got a full 22 because it was an Aaron Sorkin show and Sorkin still had the West Wing clout.

    Kevin Falls doesn't have that kind of clout with NBC.
     
  15. Dec 12, 2007 #55 of 101
    ZooCaretaker

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    Maybe it's the rating system that's failed....

    If they are going to put together a show that requires a higher than normal intellligence to even comprehend and then use the general population to measure it's worth, then the show is probably doomed before it starts.

    I suppose you could say the same thing about Hero's; but the show's generic super-hero personality combined with some pretty graphic/gory storylines along with more action scenes make it an entirely different type of show.

    How about an IQ rating where they could put the most sophisticated advertisements on the shows with the highest IQ rating....
     
  16. Dec 12, 2007 #56 of 101
    Rob Helmerichs

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    It failed in the sense that the ratings were terrible.

    And those other shows were in another era, sadly. If a studio head allowed a show with crappy ratings to go a second season now, chances are he/she'd be fired before the ratings ever had a chance to go up...

    For the networks, it's all about instant gratification. If they don't get it, they pull the trigger; if they don't pull the trigger fast enough and often enough, somebody pulls the trigger on them.
     
  17. Dec 12, 2007 #57 of 101
    newsposter

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    how can every show be a success? think about it, there are 24 hours in a day..do each and every one make money?
     
  18. Dec 12, 2007 #58 of 101
    dansee

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    Also, Studio 60s worst numbers, right before they pulled it last February, was a 4.1 share. This time last year, 60 was pulling close to a 5, and had a demographic that NBC salivated over -- wealthy 18-40 year olds.

    Journeyman has broken 4.0 once since the 5th episode, with 3.8s and 3.7s for the most recent airings.

    I'm not saying that numbers don't suck, or that they don't reflect fan feelings or loyalty -- but they're what the networks have to pitch to advertisers, and if they just ain't there, they just ain't there.

    Again, I love the show, but I just can't jump on the Burn In Hell bandwagon, unless it's directed toward an ignorant public, who'd rather watch CSI Miami than quality programming.
     
  19. Dec 12, 2007 #59 of 101
    dswallow

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    I'd like to formally curse NBC's 10pm timeslot on Mondays; may whatever they put there always do worse than Studio 60. :)
     
  20. Dec 12, 2007 #60 of 101
    newsposter

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    hey medium was monday at 10 and it's coming back
     

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