Journeyman 11/26/2007 (S01E10) "Blowback"

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  1. Nov 28, 2007 #81 of 140
    stiffi

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    I, personally, think this show is written quite well. Dialogue is very good, each plot point is introduced subtley, yet effectively, and the sets and camera work both look good. I also believe each actor's performance is top notch. Even Dan's son is acted quite well. I know he's a child, but he's still pretty good. Can anybody say Shawny from John from Cincinnati?

    I mean, let's remember, Kevin McKidd is British. On top of everything else he's doing (action, emotions, gestures) he's covering his accent. That, in and of itself isn't groundbreaking, but it's still pretty impressive.

    I'm no professional writer, but I am college educated, with several writing courses under my belt, and I believe that Journeyman is one of the most well thought out and executed shows on the air right now. Especially when compared to some other shows, I find very little holes in Journeyman, and believe me I look!
     
  2. Nov 28, 2007 #82 of 140
    TonyD79

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    Odd, because I think the show is getting better. The biggest reason for me (same as for shows like Chuck and others) is because I care about the characters. They are real and interesting. The simple fact that the wife stands by her guy (pretty much from the beginning) rather than it becoming a cliche that puts "strain" on the marriage.

    Conversely, I totally gave up on the Bionic Woman because I didn't care if any of the characters lived or died. (The only interesting one at all was the Starbuck character and she is just a sideline.)
     
  3. Nov 28, 2007 #83 of 140
    TonyD79

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    I just read Vito's review. Dreck. Being snarky just to be snarky is just plain dumb. Gee, let's see. Questioning the reactions of a character to a situation? Is everyone supposed to be the same? That would be bad writing. Every writing class will tell you to develop a character and be consistent with how they would react in a given situation. Don't assume everyone reacts the same way (this in reference to Jack meeting Livia in the elevator. Odd how Vito says that the writing is bad and boring yet when they do something that is not standard, he criticizes it. Jack was supposed to say "But you're dead?" That would be knee-jerk writing that shows no creativity at all).

    Second, the show did not follow the traditional style that says Dan fixes the problem by fixing the young version of the kidnapper. Instead, it ended in a non-traditional way. Dan couldn't fix the situation by going back in time. Instead, he used his knowledge to get the kidnapper off-guard and saved his wife the traditional way.

    And, yes, I am being harsh because I am so sick of snarkiness in reviewing entertainment, sports, politics, etc. It is easy and cheap. How about some real analysis for a change. Oh, that's right, I get a lot of that here.
     
  4. Nov 28, 2007 #84 of 140
    JohnB1000

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    OK regarding the Kevin Falls interview. Is he saying that they have 10,11,12 left with 10-11 being a 2 parter and 12 will not be shown or what. I am completely lost in too much detail. Can someone simplify it for me :)
     
  5. Nov 28, 2007 #85 of 140
    DevdogAZ

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    He's saying that they have 10-12 left. 10 is the Christmas ep and 11-12 is a two-parter but that there is currently no room on the schedule for 12 (probably due to Christmas and Zucker's self-imposed end of the year deadline). According to Falls, the show will be pre-empted on Dec. 3 for Life. It is currently scheduled to air on Dec. 10 (ep. 10) and Dec. 17 (ep. 11). The next two Mondays are Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve. They're not going to air the final episode on those nights, and then we get into the new year where Zucker wants to start fresh with new stuff.

    Maybe they can air the two-part finale back to back on the 17th since Heroes will already be over at that point.
     
  6. Nov 28, 2007 #86 of 140
    JohnB1000

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    So they would show the first part of a 2-parter and not the second part. Wow, maybe what people say about networks is true :)
     
  7. Nov 28, 2007 #87 of 140
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I'd like to read your review and judge for myself, but this link isn't working for me. I tried www.recapist.com and that didn't work either. Is anyone else having the same problem?
     
  8. Nov 28, 2007 #88 of 140
    Bryanmc

    Bryanmc I'm normal.

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    Works for me.
     
  9. Nov 28, 2007 #89 of 140
    Bierboy

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    Sucks to me.
     
  10. Nov 28, 2007 #90 of 140
    wprager

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    DevDog, you're not missing much. Most of it has already been discussed on here. It's not the worst review I'd read, but it's the most thorough at picking at every little nit (some not being nits at all -- again, this has been discussed here).
     
  11. Nov 28, 2007 #91 of 140
    DevdogAZ

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    Must be a cookies issue. It goes back and forth between trying to load recapist.com and famesters.com but neither of them ever comes up. I then get a message that "This Page isn't Redirecting Properly."

    Usually when a site won't load due to my blocking the cookie, I get a page explaining how to allow the cookie. Here, I just get nothing, but cookies is the only thing I can think of.
     
  12. Nov 28, 2007 #92 of 140
    Johnny Dancing

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    My whole family was blown away by this episode. My wife is not a big scifi fan and she was totally locked into the show.

    Only problem is that it had a series final feel to it. Just when it starts getting real good it's gone.
     
  13. Nov 28, 2007 #93 of 140
    stellie93

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    Am I a geek? Didn't know that, but I'll proudly join the ranks. (I usually like the same stuff the rest of you do) ;)
     
  14. Nov 28, 2007 #94 of 140
    danterner

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    It happened with Nightstalker, as I recall, on ABC. From wikipedia: "The last episode that was aired was the first of a multi-part episode, so viewers never saw the end of the sixth story. However, some time after the cancellation, the seventh episode appeared on Apple's iTunes Music Store for download. On February 7, 2006, the final three episodes were released on iTunes." It was later showed in its entirety (10 episodes) on Sci-Fi, as I recall.
     
  15. Nov 28, 2007 #95 of 140
    trainman

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    Here, I've got a legitimate nit to pick, although it's a very small nit: seeing a "1980" registration sticker on a car's license plate is not necessarily a sign that the current year is 1980. There's a fairly good chance that it's 1979. (If someone came back in time to today and looked at my car's license plate, they'd see the "2008" sticker that's been there since May.)
     
  16. Nov 28, 2007 #96 of 140
    MickeS

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    I was thinking the same thing. :D Even though, it doesn't matter too much if it's -80 or -79 I guess.
     
  17. Nov 28, 2007 #97 of 140
    DevdogAZ

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    My car has an '09 sticker on it.

    But speaking of that, wasn't that Cadillac an early 80's model, not a 70's model?
     
  18. Nov 28, 2007 #98 of 140
    ZooCaretaker

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    It also happened with Tru Calling -- the series finale was never air'd. Luckily season one and all six episodes of season 2 did make it to DVD.
     
  19. Nov 28, 2007 #99 of 140
    Vito the TiVo

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    Yes, I agree, but if I was my own critics, I would point out that they already addressed this and made fun of it in an earlier episode. People would tell me that I wasn't paying attention.
     
  20. MickeS

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    So why DIDN'T you make this legitimate nitpick? It's not like you didn't have the chance. :) Although this didn't affect the story at all even if it had been 1979.
     

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