John Oliver vs Russell Crowe

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  1. Apr 2, 2019 #81 of 160
    Saturn_V

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    I used to think of LWT as borderline investigative journalism and not merely late nite schtick commentary. (Frontline meets The Daily Show)

    Now I don't know what to think. It's not been rubbing me the right way this season either.
     
  2. Apr 2, 2019 #82 of 160
    cheesesteak

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    At least the episode wasn't about Brexit!

    Pro Wrestling is stupid but it's a fun stupid. I grew up watching the WWWF on Saturday mornings (and Roller Derby too) and the WWF and other federations into my 20s. It's "fake" but the people who do it put tremendous strains on their bodies and health. It's a shame that the corporation they work for treats them like dirt. Seeing Vince McMahon get popped upside his head with a bed pan cracked me up.
     
  3. Apr 2, 2019 #83 of 160
    Steveknj

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    Doesn't UFC consider it's fights legit? I think that's the difference in some respects. WWE fighters are essentially actors who are treated badly. A UFC fighter (assuming it IS on the up and up) has to understand that getting in the ring has risks. Boxing is the same way. Only champs and crowd pleasers make any money.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2019 #84 of 160
    Steveknj

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    Of course the WWE, was, even before the WWF, the WWWF (World Wide Wrestling Federation.)
     
  5. Apr 2, 2019 #85 of 160
    Tony_T

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    It's not a guy exploding through a table :)

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  6. Apr 2, 2019 #86 of 160
    Steveknj

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    I get the feeling that J.O. is just really bored with serious stuff (and especially anything related to US politics). First and foremost, it's comedy. The WWE is always good for a few laughs. But yes, sometimes it does border on some decent investigative journalism. But he's done plenty of lighter stuff too (hence we got the story on Scranton's train on the news, and Russell Crowe's jockstrap :) )
     
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  7. Apr 2, 2019 #87 of 160
    logic88

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    I assume UFC is legit in terms of the actual fights (the match-ups are another matter).

    I also assume the risks are higher in the UFC since those are actual hits. So I'm thinking the risk/reward ratio is even worse. Though I suppose those outrageous stunts can also be very risky since there are few precautions.
     
  8. Apr 2, 2019 #88 of 160
    realityboy

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    It likely evens out. In the UFC, the hits are harder, but they’re only taking them a few times per year. In the WWE, there’s no offseason and performers are taking bumps several times per week with constant travel.

    Notably, CM Punk from Oliver’s piece left WWE over safety issues and attempted a UFC career afterward.
     
  9. Apr 15, 2019 #89 of 160
    logic88

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    Another meh episode. There wasn't anything that hasn't been covered to death in other shows or news reports.

    I'm really beginning to think that with so many comedy/news shows out there, the well is running dry.

    (Either that or I've just been keeping too up to date on the news.)
     
  10. Apr 15, 2019 #90 of 160
    Tony_T

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    cheesesteak

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    I'm annoyed with myself for not hitting the fast forward button quicker during that last 13 minutes waste of time mascot skit.
     
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  13. Apr 22, 2019 #93 of 160
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah...the initial stuff on the Mueller report was classic Oliver. Then the main story was...classic this season Oliver.

    I'm wondering if maybe he's starting to get a little bored?
     
  14. Apr 22, 2019 #94 of 160
    cheesesteak

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    That skit was probably a pretty expensive waste of money too. To take a deep dive into Japanese mascot culture was a curious executive decision. I'd have preferred another Brexit expose instead of that.

    I'm definitely not going back to rewatch to check but it seemed to me that John was alternating between Mull-er and Mule-er in his pronunciations of Mueller.
     
  15. Apr 22, 2019 #95 of 160
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    About a minute in, I started FF. It didn't hold my interest at all. Of course, one has to keep an eye as you FF, as sometimes he gives us a treat at the end.

    Alas, none.

    I was thinking the same thing. His stories don't have the passion they used to show, and they (IMHO) definitely don't have the hold on me as a viewer. I was late to JO, just started watching in the last couple years. And can't recall FF thru any episodes. This season, I've done it more than once.
     
  16. Apr 22, 2019 #96 of 160
    Steveknj

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    I thought, for a waste of time, the Mascot thing was pretty funny. I get the feeling that JO might be bored so he's including some irreverence into his last stories. He's done it before (the thread title was one time, another was the Scranton train story). I thought the stuff on the Mueller report was well done. For once he was able to get the drop on TN and Sam Bee, because their shows were on reruns this past week.
     
  17. Apr 22, 2019 #97 of 160
    Rob Helmerichs

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    But this isn't just a one-time thing. He's been doing it pretty much all season.

    I'm starting to get a little worried...
     
  18. Apr 22, 2019 #98 of 160
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    I am wondering if this was a canned bit so to speak prepared for weeks in advance to give his staff part of the week off for the religious holidays/spring break/... in addition to the this week they have off.
     
  19. Apr 22, 2019 #99 of 160
    morac

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    John spent 15 minutes talking about the Mueller report, which was half the episode. That didn't give much time to do a deep dive into any kind of serious subject. I feel like if the report had come out earlier in the week that it might have been the main subject of the episode instead of the pre-story story. As it was, he had to talk in length about the report, but it couldn't be the main story so he came up with something light-hearted to fill in the rest of the episode. I watched it and found it amusing, which is what it was designed to be (the opposite of the Mueller story).
     
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    This is far from the first absurdly produced tangent they're run off of this nature. Sometimes they're pretty funny. What makes this one so memorable, is both that it was a swing and a miss, and it came at a time when we were really probably looking for him to continue on with more serious matters. It was just a misfire all around. (Although if some folks liked it, then that works too)
     

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