Jeopardy: Just Noticed This

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  1. lambertman

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    No other announcements have been made, and nothing has leaked. My uninformed guess is they did two weeks with Ken and will start shooting again next week.
     
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  2. Wil

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    A million years ago when I was a Junior in High School there was a TV special during which Paul Scofield read some Byron. My English instructor, a very young, erudite and with-it Jesuit whom I much-admired, talked with me about having seen the show and loving it, but remarking on Scofield's joking "jue-one" pronunciation. I was too embarrassed to point out that in this first and only case ever, I was more with it than my mentor!.
     
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  3. pdhenry

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    I immediately had no doubt that he was right and I was wrong as to the pronunciation.
     
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  4. HarleyRandom

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    He has actually made a point of telling us yes, that IS how it's pronounced.
     
  5. trainman

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    I agree with this, but it hasn't applied to Ken Jennings until recently -- he's been self-employed as an author for most of the time that he's been on Twitter. (Presumably, his position as a trivia expert on the game show "Master Minds" was low-profile enough that he didn't feel the need to apologize for those old tweets, but things are different now that he's about to appear both as the "Jeopardy!" host and as a paid competitor on a prime-time traditional network game show, "The Chase.")
     
  6. Chester_Lampwick

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    Some spicy tweets from a mormon. What's up with that?
     
  7. Wil

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    It's more complicated than that.

    I don't remember exactly what Trebek said about it (two occasions I think) because I don't watch all the time, and my memory for that kind of thing is poor.

    But the normal kinda "Wahn"-esque pronunciation is the most common default in most contexts. In the case of the satirical epic poem "Don Juan," Byron was essentially being cutesy (many other similar clumsy anglicizations, all made clear by the rhyming), and there are other works and languages where, if the name Don Juan is quoted or referred to, it is pronounced differently than the common default.
     
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    Worf

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    Well, there is a reason why people call it "antisocial media". And yes, what people post generally brings out their true nature - people seem to think "social media" is like a private chat between two people rather than a public wall. All of them encourage posting, the more the better, and the more responses, the better. Thus people are encouraged to post anything and everything without thinking.

    Apparently doing a previous contestant as host is potentially risky because of the laws that created Jeopardy - the laws that were enacted because of the game show scandal of the 60s. One of the laws basically states that there cannot be a relationship between the contestant and anyone on the show - so if Ken Jennings is the new host, it excludes a LOT of potential contestants who through no fault of their own met him. It's not a Jeopardy issue - their potential contestant pool far exceeds the 400 they will call every year, but I'm sure there are so many potential contestants who have communicated with Jennings over the years that it would be a human tragedy for them to be excluded because of this.

    That is probably why he's a "Guest Host" - you can draw up contestants from the pool at random and select the few that will never have met Jennings when he hosts, then the others who have can use a different guest host, etc.
     
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    madscientist

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    I don't agree that someone's social media posts reveal their "true nature". Social media is at least as, if not more, performative than real life. There's a culture to it that people try hard to fit into, and as well there are huge incentives to be edgy or shocking.

    Perhaps Aunt Mabel with 9 followers is just being her natural self and treating Twitter like a private email, but anyone who's a public figure and working Twitter as a part of their job knows full-well what it is and how it works and what you need to do to grow your "brand". The line for acceptable behavior moves over time, though, and if you're trying to push the envelope you're sometimes going to find your past self on the wrong side of it.

    I'm not trying to excuse it. I just don't think "in tweet veritas" is fair either.

    On the other hand I hate Twitter and Facebook and have never had an account, not even for testing or read-only, on either one, so what do I know? Now, G+ on the other hand, I was all over that... sigh :)
     
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    HarleyRandom

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    I feel more freedom to post here and on other sites where I don't use my real name. This is why no one here will know what that is or what I look like. I have five different online names and I was going to use one of those here but when I created this name to ask why I couldn't sign in, I found out I had registered with that name on another TiVo site, and I just kept this name here. I didn't like having to move to Facebook to discuss music, and one of the participants used by name from another site he knew me from, because he recognized my posts. I asked him not to do that. The Facebook groups are at least private.

    Jennings is not my choice for host and I can't imagine anyone else doing the job.
     
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    trainman

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    Sherman...
    The scandals were in the late '50s. ("Jeopardy!", which premiered in 1964, was the first pure quiz show to make it back on TV following the scandals, and even then, it was a much lower-profile show with lower possible winnings than the prime-time shows that had been at the center of the scandals. I forget if it's been mentioned in this thread before, but the whole shtick of giving contestants the answer and forcing them to come up with the question was a tongue-in-cheek reaction to the scandals.)

    The law that covers quiz show rigging is short, and I don't think it really comes close to indicating the above -- here's the full text. Any specifics about how close of a relationship someone could have with the host and still be a contestant would be up to the show's internal policies -- and the Sony lawyers, of course. I suspect "chatted with Ken a couple of times at trivia competitions" -- which is probably about the maximum level of "relationship" with Ken that any serious potential contestants would have -- would actually not be disqualifying. (In the past, there have been contestants who had stories in their interview segments about having previously met Alex, and they obviously made it on the show. Alex even showed up at contestant tryout events once in a while, particularly earlier in the run of the show.)
     
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    danderson400

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    It's going to be so weird when Ken takes the podium. I associate the show with Alex.
     
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    pdhenry

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    I wonder if Ken's pronunciation of foreign words will be up to Trebek standards.
     
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    HarleyRandom

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    I'm just amazed he goes to so much trouble to pronounce letters that are not pronounced as they are in English.

    I was wearing lime green shoes last night.
     
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    lambertman

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    Well, how about the week of Jan. 11?
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    HarleyRandom

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    I'm confused. Alex told us sea lions were not seals, and then he told us those are the animals referred to as "trained seals".
     
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    astrohip

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    They are referred to as trained seals, but they are in reality sea lions.
     
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    Wil

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    Frankly I thought the guy was a doofus for about 20 years of the run. I liked the show itself, all the way from the Art Fleming days, but I thought Trebek was stiff and flatfooted; I usually fast-forwarded through the contestant interviews because I found them painful.

    Trebek won me over. *He* didn't change, I did. He was an original. Even his interviews I started to appreciate once I realized this wasn't a performer failing, this was just a guy being the unique individual he truly was, and he didn't care about appearing nimble or witty in any classic sense. And he did this year after year, decade after decade, just stood out there being himself.

    I'll always be grateful I underwent my Trebek transition long before his illness, so I know my feeling wasn't just artificial sentimentality. Once I got to know him, and I admit that took me a very long time, I got smart enough to know I liked him.
     

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