Jay Leno is killing NBC

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Turtleboy, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. IJustLikeTivo

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    That would still be a large improvement from the previous 6 months, no?
     
  2. inaka

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    I guess just one viewer is an improvement over being cancelled if you want to look at it that way.
     
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  4. aindik

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    He must also not be under a non-compete.
     
  5. aintnosin

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    Morning shows are not considered competition to late night shows.
     
  6. JYoung

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    Not quite.
    Last week, Leno won three of the nights, Letterman won one (the day his blackmailer was in court), and they tied one night, according to TV By The Numbers.
    And Leno won on Monday and Tuesday of this week as well.
    (I don't remember who was on Leno Monday but Letterman had Jennifer Anniston on Monday, plugging her new movie.)

    What does surprise me is that Nightline is right in there for the most part, being a very competitive third.

    http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/17/leno-wins-again-in-tuesday-preliminary-numbers/45301

    Look at comment #3.
    IIRC, O'Brien was getting about 2 to 2.1 million viewers in August of 2009.
    The blogger is projecting about 4.3 million households.
     
  7. aindik

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    Why would one think his non-compete would be limited to things that compete against late night shows? I'd expect it to encompass the full scope of things that compete against NBC.

    Do you think Conan O'Brien could take over a seat on the View before September and not get sued? I'd bet against it.
     
  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I remember reading that Andy wasn't covered under the blanket deal that Conan negotiated for his staff, and that Andy had to negotiate his own severance deal. Given the fact that he's not the same caliber of star that Conan is and that he surely didn't get mega-millions to walk away, he probably doesn't have the same restrictions.
     
  9. JYoung

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    I see that Richter has selective memory recall.
    Quite honestly, I expected better from him.
     
  10. Fofer

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    How so?
     
  11. MickeS

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    For example, the complete fabrication that Conan's ratings were "pretty good" over the summer and then took a dive in the fall when Jay's show started.
     
  12. IJustLikeTivo

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    Partisan for sure but it's his view, how could it be otherwise?
     
  13. JYoung

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    See above. Saying that their ratings were "pretty good" until Leno's isn't just partisan, it's a lie.

    There were other things too that Richter said that I thought were blame deflection.

    I don't expect Richter to come out and say "We were making a show that America didn't want to to watch", but he could have been classier about it.
     
  14. Roadblock

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    "Pretty good" is a subjective phrase. At least he's not a thief.
     
  15. MickeS

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    Not really, but even if we can pretend that, claiming that the decline happened when Leno's prime time show started is NOT subjective. Conan's ratings were consistently lower than Jay's at the same time period the year before.
     
  16. modnar

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  17. IJustLikeTivo

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    I dislike saying he lied. I think he believes that. My guess is that like most on air talent he has very little knowledge of the day to day issues like that.
     
  18. Roadblock

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    And how is that not to be expected? It's a new host. Surely you are aware that Jay's numbers were a big drop from Carson's at first?

    Jay's primetime show numbers were great though huh? Do you really think Jay's terrible primetime show had no effect on Conan's numbers?
     
  19. Andrew_S

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    Despite all this discussion, Jay's still not funny. Right?
     
  20. Fofer

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    Right.
     

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