Jack Ryan

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Hcour, Aug 15, 2018.

  1. Sep 4, 2018 #81 of 123

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA


    Just a reminder this is not a spoilers thread... maybe mods can change the title? Or else a new thread can be started for spoilers? Thanks!
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  2. Sep 4, 2018 #82 of 123

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Burlington, VT
    My wife and I enjoyed it a good deal.

    Regarding next season, so spoilered here....

    I really like the notion of next season being set (or started) in Moscow. I hope this might allow some well known Russian "villians" to show up in younger form. Perhaps Ramius.....
  3. Sep 4, 2018 #83 of 123

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

    Aug 6, 2003
    Madison, WI
    I enjoyed it a moderate amount. In some ways it's like what you'd get if you took all the character melodrama and quiver-lipped crying out of Homeland. Some of it was pretty stupid. Some of the scenes were pretty good. Another show I thought of watching it was Strike Back. Not as fun as Strike Back though.
  4. Sep 4, 2018 #84 of 123

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA
    We are watching it too. The production values are pretty good but I am sort of irritated on how they have changed the concept of the Greer and Ryan characters from the other movies. I recently saw a ranking of the various Ryan movies and they put this version in the middle with Alec Baldwin's Red October version as the best.
  5. Sep 4, 2018 #85 of 123

    eddyj Señor Member TCF Club

    Jun 20, 2002
    South Florida


    I think by changing the relationship, they give themselves more room to develop plotlines, rather than have to stick with the original material. Given this is a third generation (books/movies/show), that is probably a good idea, so it does not feel stale.
  6. Sep 4, 2018 #86 of 123

    Frylock Well-Known Member

    Feb 13, 2002
    Just West...
    Uggghhh. If you are a fan of Tom Clancy books, then this show is NOT for you. I've read (and enjoyed) all of his books, and have been reading the new Jack Ryan Jr. books now that were co-written for the first few, and obviously now are just following his characters and style. This series was all over the place with inconsistencies between Jack, the books (which I expected, but I thought some of the changes weren't really necessary), and just overall sloppy writing. I thought JK did a pretty good job in the role and the material that he was given.

    Really, I think they would have been better doing a Jack Ryan Jr character with the new books. They are set in modern times, and most of them are pretty good (the latest not so much). But the story and characters would have fit better, and I think it would have given them more to work with. I realize that they are less known, but they could have used the first few episodes to really explain things.
  7. Sep 4, 2018 #87 of 123

    ScaleManJ Member

    Oct 26, 2017
    I’m a huge fan, read all the books multiple times, listened to all the audio books multiple times and of course watched the movies . .

    I’m really enjoying this, as is my wife who had never read a book, listened to an audio book but has watched “some” of the movies.
  8. Sep 4, 2018 #88 of 123

    Peter000 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 15, 2002
    Red Wing, MN
    I enjoy the Clancy books, but I find them to be generally overwritten, ie, he explains everything too much.

    I thought this series could have been about half as long as well. But, still I enjoyed it overall and will watch the next one.
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  9. Sep 4, 2018 #89 of 123

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

    Jul 10, 2003
    I watched the whole season over the last few nights. I finished up last night and Dolby Vision and Atmos looked and sounded great.
  10. Sep 4, 2018 #90 of 123

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    I've only watched the first couple episodes so far, but one thing that bugged me in the very beginning of the pilot is the idea that Jack rides his bike to work at the CIA. Maybe it's more plausible than I think it is, but CIA headquarters is not in downtown D.C. like they made it look, it's in a wooded area about 10 miles up the river. And to enter the complex you have to drive through a big security checkpoint. It just doesn't seem like the type of place that people would ride a bicycle to.
  11. Sep 4, 2018 #91 of 123

    spartanstew Thanks 4 the Update

    Feb 23, 2002
    Wylie, Texas
    We watched the whole series over the weekend. Overall, pretty good. The writing was a bit lazy in parts, and I wish it had a bit more action. Still not sure if I like Jim in that role - especially since it looks like they made him get all buffed out for it. He just doesn't look right (to me). But, I'll watch season 2.
  12. Sep 4, 2018 #92 of 123

    Mikeyis4dcats Well-Known Member

    Oct 2, 2003
    he's actually been buff for a long time. See Leatherheads.
  13. Sep 4, 2018 #93 of 123

    spartanstew Thanks 4 the Update

    Feb 23, 2002
    Wylie, Texas
    Do I have to?
  14. Sep 10, 2018 #94 of 123

    lew Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2002
    He got one important detail wrong. When the office of VP is vacant the nominee must be confirmed by both Houses, not just the Senate.
  15. Sep 11, 2018 #95 of 123

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    Same with me, I enjoyed it, even it was kind of a cliche CIA vs. terrorist story. I was able to get Atmos working via Amazon Fire, but what did you use to get DV working? I have DV on my TV, but did not see it through my Fire device.
  16. Sep 11, 2018 #96 of 123

    dcheesi ...I'm not.

    Apr 6, 2001
    MD, USA
    Apparently not available outside of Facebook (grrr), but:

  17. Sep 11, 2018 #97 of 123

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    That's an overly-broad assertion.

    How about:
    If you are a fan of Tom Clancy books and only like shows that are exactly like them, then this show is NOT for you.​
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  18. Sep 11, 2018 #98 of 123

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

    Jun 1, 2007
    I enjoyed the series a lot- but for reasons totally unrelated to the Ryanverse books; which ended with Red Rabbit for me- I have zero interest in the Greaney novels or JR Jr.

    I've never been satisfied with the movie adaptations- even knowing they could never deliver the deep and wide of a typical Clancy techno-thriller. But a Clancy story told in a long-form TV series where you can show all that detail like the path to radicalization or the muslim refugee plight really grabbed me. It reminded me more of Narcos than it did 24.

    Maybe someday I'll get my Red Storm Rising miniseries. But until then this show fits the bill.
  19. Sep 12, 2018 #99 of 123

    speedcouch Geekneck

    Oct 23, 2003
    North Carolina
    So the writers could totally copy the plot from the movie Good Kill. Lazy writing...
  20. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    I haven't seen Good Kill (almost nobody has, it made $1.5 million at the box office), but I just read the plot synopsis on Wikipedia. There are obvious similarities with a drone pilot being uneasy with the fact that he's killing people, but that seems like a pretty generic story idea, not one that should be completely avoided since there was a movie with a similar character.

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