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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JJK1954, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Given how long this has taken to get to market it is fairly clear someone doesn't want it to be successful. So maybe that someone is hoping for poor sales so they can find a reason to drop it before it goes Nation wide.
     
  2. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    Source, please.
     
  3. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

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    Multiple sources quoted at DBSTalk and elsewhere.
     
  4. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

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    Limited availability. And a desire to not overwhelm the support reps.
     
  5. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    Ahh, the old "Multiple." Knows all.

    So Mike White, who is Chairman, President & CEO of DirecTV, was lying when he said on May 6, 2010 that DirecTV had "provided them [Tivo] specs for our box"?
     
  6. litzdog911

    litzdog911 TechKnow Guide

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    Sure. DirecTV provided them the specs for the HR22 hardware.

    Not sure what point you're trying to make here, but I'm not going to engage in a debate. In my humble opinion it's been sufficiently document that Tivo defined the feature set. There's no reason for DirecTV to have force them to "neuter" their feature set. DirecTV wins whether we buy a Tivo-based DVR or their own DVR.
     
  7. davidpo

    davidpo New Member

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    So Tivo wanted their newest dtivo to be a failure by not including whdvr,youtube etc? DirecTv had their hands in this feature set or tivo is run by a complete dumbass which could be the case. I really wanted a new tivo,but whdvr is a deal killer for me maybe those in power at tivo will get it added asap.
     
  8. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    I have no quarrel with you expressing an opinion. None. Zero. We have no issue here about your opinion. None. Zero. I simply expressed a passing and minor inquiry as to whether there was any information. It's not important. I don't care. Thanks anyway and I apologize for having interrupted.
     
  9. oldsurferjoe

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    Ours is coming $199 free shipping! Very excited - just think of the firmware updates at minimum. I still love our HR10-250's but!

    I don't want Youtube, Multi-room, recorder to recorder, just a solid HD Tivo!

    Will report back!
     
  10. HiDefGator

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    Tivo is engineering bandwidth limited. they want their resources on the standalone units which they are pushing to cable. The directv unit has limited sales potential. They are applying limited resources to it. Tivo can't afford full blown feature set if they only sell a few hundred thousand.
     
  11. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member

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    DirecTV would absolutely be involved in features that stream or deliver it's content to other devices.

    As far as other features like netflix or youtube, who knows...
     
  12. elmofongo

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    Ordered mine yesterday to replace one of my 2 Samsung DirecTivo's. I qualified for the $99 price. Only on capacity available for now (500GB drive), they claim 75 hours of HD and 400 hours of SD. I was disappointed about the extra $5/month Tivo fee I have to pay now, in addition to the current $7 I already pay as a "DVR" fee. Of course I also have to shell out $10 a month for HD service also.

    Does anyone know why I was not charged the $5 monthly Tivo fee for my old DirecTivo boxes?
     
  13. litzdog911

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    See response to your other post with this same questions. The older DirecTivos did not have a separate Tivo fee. They were covered under the $7/mo DVR fee.
     
  14. rick31621

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    Purchased the new Tivo thurs, had an install appt this morning, installer shows up w/ a used/reconditioned HR receiver. Never heard of or seen the new THR22. Talked to installer's supervisor, never heard of it & is checking w/ warehouse to see if they have any.

    Called D*, talked to an install CSR, told her the situation, her reply was "I don't know what you want me to do"!

    Called D*, talked to a C/S Supv and filed complaint about CSR.

    Still waiting to hear if the THR22 is available.

    Aparently D* did not prepare installers for the new Tivo.
     
  15. attaylor

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    Does anyone know what it takes to qualify for the $99 price? I've been waiting to trade out my two HDVR2s, but $199 each is a little steep. I've been with DTV since about 1995.
     
  16. eleventeen

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    Pretty much the same issue I had. On initial call, one CSR told me the work order was wrong, the next told me it wasn't and the installer messed up and had to fix it and order me the right one, that he wouldn't fix it over the phone.
    I called back after the installer couldn't figure it out since their system just showed the HD-DVR and the installer finally told me to cancel the order and start over to see if that helped. Turns out it won't as their system has a glitch when you order, for install or delivery in some zip codes that are putting the standard HD-DVR on everything instead of the Tivo. Supervisor yesterday told me they would need 7-10 for engineering to fix the ordering issues and they would call me back.
    I understand it's a new product but they didn't hesitate to charge my credit card immediately.
     
  17. MamaKAS

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    When TiVo started working on this box THREE years ago, whdvr, youtube, etc. didn't even exist.

    It took TiVo (yes, TiVo, not D*) this long to get out a box with the features that it has. If they would have tried to implement everything else, it would have taken another two years and by then it would be obsolete again.

    It seems to be a very nice unit that's several years behind and will probably appeal to those individuals that would rather buy a fast DVD player today than a slower Blu Ray player.
     
  18. Jerry_K

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    Really? I had whole house on my DirecTiVos (still in use today) in 2002. I had whole house on my Series 3 which TiVo developed. In fact, the hacking community was so active on the TiVo units to get MRV for the DirecTiVo that TiVo sort of participated under the radar. They incorporated it in the Series 3 right out of the box. And YouTube was added just a few months after the Series 3 came out. And that was more than three years ago.

    It has to be DTV that is deciding the the TiVo interface not work with as many features as the current series of DTV equipment. I am sure that if the TiVo interface had the same features, DTV would never sell another Rupert box.

    You need to see someone with a Series 3 standalone TiVo to see what a real user friendly interface looks like.
     
  19. litzdog911

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    Why should DirecTV really care? They make money whether its a DirecTV "Rupert box" or a Tivo box. In fact, with the $5 Tivo fee they might actually be making a bit MORE money on the Tivo boxes.

    I just don't see why some folks insist that DirecTV "forced" Tivo to neuter this new Tivo. My sources (pretty reliable) insist that Tivo made these decisions. I guess we'll never know the full story.
     
  20. MamaKAS

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    Yes, really. Those things didn't exist on the D* platform (not didn't exist anywhere). The new TiVo unit was always to be based on the D* platform. But nobody thought it would take TiVo 3-4 years to do it. If it would have come out 2.5 years ago, it would have been cutting edge and everyone would have bought one. Now, they'll be extremely lucky to sell 10,000 of them.

    And I can assure you that I have EXTENSIVE experience with TiVo's various interfaces and boxes. That's irrelevant to this discussion.

    These boxes are crippled for one reason: TiVo had more important things to do than spend time working on than these boxes, as they're just a sideline for them.
     

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