Is Tivo loosing it's technological edge???

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by bassque, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. bassque

    bassque New Member

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    Oh I did. SlashDot and GoogleTV forums were actually interested in having a conversation about the topic and not interested in trolling responses such as ...


    Or...

     
  2. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    You can clearly see the responses your questions/comments/opinions got. If that is what you were looking for then you properly posed your questions/comments/opinions. If the responses are not what you were looking for then the problem is very likely how you posed your questions/comments/opinions.

    I mistakenly assumed you were actually looking for information, it now appears you really just want to have a opinion/speculation ranting thread. No problem with that either.

    Thanks,
     
  3. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    I think the transfer rate issue is from the Zumocast server piece reencoding the video on the fly for the iPad. It seems to work with any video format, but taking the Mpeg2 to mp4 on the machine I use for media must be too much for it.
     
  4. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Apparently my suggestion for Deep Thought therapy in post #6 did not mellow the snarkiness. ;)

    Also, since I'm an old guy I'm not afraid to admit I didn't get this at all:
    Tighten an edge??
    Can someone explain this, please? (preferably without snarkiness).
     
  5. SullyND

    SullyND L: 31-14 (10-2) TCF Club

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    Originally it appeared as though TiVo was loosing it's edge.
     
  6. bassque

    bassque New Member

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    I misspelled losing and used loosing. Sorry for the snarkiness but that drives internet trolls and English teachers crazy.
     
  7. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Your title still says 'loosing', and you either respect the language and want to preserve it or you don't and get acceptance of junk like Ebonics.

    But back on topic - your problem can be solved by a Slingbox, assuming you have enough upstream bandwidth.
     
  8. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Tivo has a lot of loose edges.
     
  9. parzec

    parzec Wizard of Oz

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    I've noticed that this is a recurring theme in your posts: that no customer is "loyal," but instead all customers are purely rational and stick with the product that best fits their needs; and if there was something better out there, they would buy that product.

    I think you are taking the "rational consumer" concept too far. In Econ 101, Keynesian economics is popular for teaching broader concepts of economic theory -- but you can't apply it strictly in real life. (Similarly, it is like teaching Newtonian Physics in Physics 101 where the effects of friction are completely ignored in effort to teach broader concepts of the science, gravity, momentum, etc -- likewise, it would be foolish to apply that methodology in the real world where friction actually exists.) The fact is, people are loyal to brands and get "fuzzy" feelings about certain brands, feel inherited status from a brand or product, or have imagined expectations of quality, etc. It is precisely why advertising works and why a bankrupt company can sell it's name for value to a Chinese manufacturer that will stamp it on everything (eg.Sunbeam) it sells, why people have allegiance to sports teams and despite long losing records continue to sell tickets and merchandise to their loyal fans; and it is why businesses spend fortunes on "loyalty" programs that ensure repeat business.

    Exclusive reliance on the "Rational Consumer" is misplaced in a reality, and should be left in the class room where it belongs.
     
  10. bassque

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    Hello..Apple?!?!
     
  12. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I'm not aware of any feature on DirecTV's DVR that allows it to stream to an iPhone.
     
  13. bassque

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    They have the Sat-Go Device which isn't DVR streaming but at least provides an alternative. They have announced that it will be a feature in the near future though.
     
  14. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    That's not even a DVR, and it's REALLY expensive. What does Sat-Go have to do with an iPhone? Lugging around a satellite dish and a TV isn't what you were talking about in the OP.

    I can stream NFL Sunday Ticket to an iPhone, most cable companies also offer streaming of online content. If we're not talking about DVR technology, I guess you should be asking why your cable company doesn't offer streaming?

    TiVo offers TiVo to Go which is more than most DVRs offer...
     
  15. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Unfortunately true..... but we would all be better off if there was more rationality and less emotion in our decisions. Thus an occasional attack on irrational thinking, as in lessd's post, is OK with me. Of course driving it into the ground is another thing.
     
  16. bassque

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    It's just so cold...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg

     
  17. parzec

    parzec Wizard of Oz

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    The knee-jerk reaction of Tivo-Fanboys is to assume you were criticizing Tivo by asking it to do something it does not:eek::eek::eek:, so they lash out and attack the form of your post instead of dealing with the substance -- sort of the equivalent of an Ad Hominem attack. And, yes, it is sad and pathetic....
     
  18. parzec

    parzec Wizard of Oz

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    The perfect example of customer loyalty!

    In answer to your question, get a Slingbox solo and the Slingplayer app for your phone to watch Tivo. I recently purchased a Slingbox Pro HD and it works great, but truthfully, you are better off with the cheaper Slingbox Solo since true HD is not appreciable on 3g connections. The Slingbox Solo has component inputs you can run straight out of the Tivo -- and an extra composite and S-Video that you can use for security/spy cams :D

    Streaming does seem like something Tivo should strive to provide to remain competitive. In fact, I think I recall an Engadget article that recently talked about its development, but I am at a loose as to where it is ;)
     
  19. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    :confused: Well you must be trying to make a point with that video since you've posted it twice now. I don't get it and don't see how it is a response to my post.

    Just to clarify my post: I'm not saying loyalty is always irrational. However the concept is misused in more than one way. First it is frequently applied to brands irrationally as parzec stated. Second it is used as a rhetorical club as in your original post, i.e., to insinuate that somehow something is to be expected of a company or corporation because you have been "loyal" to it.

    Loyalty is rational if you have established a relationship of trust with a person or entity. Underlying it is the assumption of a permanent character of the other party, i.e., that the person or company you are dealing with today is essentially the same person or entity you were dealing with in the past. However, companies, corporations, and in some cases even people, can change their character over relatively short time intervals. (For example, a company can have a complete change of management, goals, or ownership.) In such cases loyalty is irrational and most likely won't be rewarded.

    In other words, to paraphrase Ronald Reagan: Be loyal but verify!
     
  20. bassque

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