Is the "slow" UI still there?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by ffletch, Jan 3, 2012.

  1. Jan 3, 2012 #1 of 31
    ffletch

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    Was thinking about getting a Premiere and all of the reviews say that the UI was slow but they're pretty much all old reviews. What's the current wisdom? Is the HD UI still as slow as it was? I've read that it might be related to the the 2nd core not being enabled. So is the 2nd core enabled now?
     
  2. Jan 3, 2012 #2 of 31
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    We really don't need yet another thread on this, do we? Ug.
    The reviews are still valid

    The HDUI is faster than some cable boxes, and much slower than many people want.

    The HDUI is now slightly faster than it was before the last update. Slightly.

    Yes, which makes improvements in many areas mostly not related to the HDUI.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2012 #3 of 31
    caddyroger

    caddyroger New Member

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    I still use the SDUI instead of the HDUI because the HDUI is still to slow.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2012 #4 of 31
    smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

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    Someone needs to create a sticky thread: "Yes! The HDUI is still slow".

    Personally I use HDUI and find it acceptable. Could it be better? Yes, much. However, it's not the end of the world. It wouldn't deter me from buying a Premiere.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2012 #5 of 31
    atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    After each update I try the HDUI so I can make comments about it.

    While the HDUI works fine for me I still find the SDUI superior in just about every way.

    I don't have DVRs to "watch" their UIs and want to spend as little time as possible using and being in the UI. So under my criteria the SDUI is and will likely remain superior to the HDUI.

    If for some reason you want to spend lots of time in the UI, I suppose the HDUI is "prettier" and if you have no idea what you want to record will provide lots of visual adds (recommendations) for shows to help you out.

    But the reality is "slow" or "fast" or "acceptable" is in the eyes of the beholder. If you are coming from a Series 2 you will likely think the HDUI is rocket ship fast. If you are coming from a Series 3 HD not so much.

    If you need/want a new DVR the Premiere works just fine in either the HDUI or SDUI.

    Good Luck,
     
  6. Jan 5, 2012 #6 of 31
    ffletch

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    The big draw for me is the increased networking speed. I do a lot of streaming from my local server here and I'm sick of all of the work-arounds to get it working right (e.g. having to start a video early so that enough of it will be there when I start watching when using the pytivo method or having to dial back the quality when using the streambaby method). It just seems silly that bottle neck is the TiVo itself. But I'll stop ranting.

    So I was about to pull the trigger on a Premiere and then I though to myself - I don't want to sacrifice UI speed for network speed. So I figured I'd ask to get the most up to date info. So it sound like the UI is not "fixed" and is still slow. But it sound like I might be happy with the SDUI. I'm curious if all of the reviews about the increased networking speed are true. I haven't heard anything to lead me to believe that they aren't.
     
  7. Jan 5, 2012 #7 of 31
    crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    You *can* use the SDUI, it is much faster on a series 4 than a series 2 SDUI and significantly faster than a series 3 SDUI. And yes, the network transfer speed is much faster than on a series 3/HD.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2012 #8 of 31
    ffletch

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    Wow, if that wasn't good timing I don't know what was :). So - same question about the HDUI but this time WITH the new software update. Is it faster / fast enough now?
     
  9. Jan 6, 2012 #9 of 31
    johnner1999

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    so the new HD guides are faster?
     
  10. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

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    faster than 14.9.2.2? yes a little

    faster than SDUI? you kidding?

    fast enough for...? depends on who you asking. me? yes.
     
  11. Saberj

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    I've always considered the HDUI to be "fast enough for me". But I came to the premiere directly from a Cable Co Motorola DVR that was just terrible. Before that, I had a Series 2. So personally, I've always ignored the "too slow" comments, because I've seen much worse, and was used to much worse prior to getting my Premiere. Like someone else said, it's really in the eye of the beholder. Too slow, fast enough, etc are going to mean different things for different people. The only way you will be able to tell is to get one for yourself to try. I would assume if you got one at Best Buy or something similar, then you could probably return it if you didn't like it. Not sure how that would play into the initial contract period.
     
  12. johnner1999

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    correct the current HRxx DVR from DirecTV is as slow if not worse than the HDUI. And thats a SD menu here. I understand the new HD menu that DirecTV is pushing is nicer and faster...
     
  13. crxssi

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    Yet, our local cable boxes are much faster. And have been for years... like the SDUI menus are. So yes, the definition of "slow" or "fast" is hugely subjective- based on previous experiences, comparisons to other devices (both TV related and not), expectations, and the way the user thinks or processes info.

    To me, the HDUI is unacceptably slow/frustrating and made much worse by the delayed (yet interruptable) loading of elements on the screens. Like graphics popping up seconds after I highlight something. Or the useless Discovery Bar changes, seconds after I go into a menu. Or the delays when switching in and out of SD/HD since the menus are not HD. I am also very comfortable and used to the SDUI (after over a decade of use), so I will be a "tough cookie sell" when it comes to using the current design and speed (slow) of the HDUI. YET- I recognize and understand why some people find the HDUI performance to be perfectly fine or at least acceptable.
     
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    Yeah, I still find the UI too slow. However, I also find it attractive and modern - and use it nearly exclusively. Also, even though it's slower than some of TiVo's competitors, it's frequently more efficient due to better organization.
     
  16. Saberj

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    I came to post that too. Anything that doesn't pull from the internet (IE - The Discovery Bar) is just fine, speed wise for me. It's when it starts retrieving that information that the slowdown becomes bothersome. But I don't think I've ever used the Discovery Bar. I tune it out, generally.
     
  17. davezatz

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    Yeah, I rarely to never pull up anything on the Discovery Bar, but in regular use I find the NPL too slow to populate and to inconsistently populate. It's tolerable, just not ideal.
     
  18. richsadams

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    Our Premiere XL just received v20.2 and after having used it for a while I'm very pleased with the progress they've made with the HDUI. Thank you TiVo...finally!

    We've had just about every model of TiVo since 2002. We pre-ordered our Premiere XL thinking it would be "the next big thing". After receiving it I was disappointed and an early (and repeat) complainer about the slow and half-baked nature of the Premiere's HDUI. I even added a cut and paste rant in the comments section of my monthly TiVo Survey.

    I haven't used every single menu and/or feature but of all of the day-to-day normal menus we use we've found the response time to just about meet or beat the SDUI's. It seems like the first time I use a menu or feature it takes TiVo a moment or two to get that element up and running, but after that it's very snappy.

    Even my wife (who had a greater dislike for the HDUI than I) commented about how much better it is...and that she won't mind using it now.

    I don't know if it's just the UI that's improved or if TiVo has finally activated the second processor, but whatever they've done I'm a pretty happy camper with just about everything our Lifetime TiVo Premiere XL does now :up:.
     
  19. caddyroger

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    I still use the SDUI because....I like the SDUI.
     

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