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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by gastrof, Oct 31, 2011.
I thread-crappingly gave up on it halfway into the first episode.
I think the quotes below are why the show may have been doomed from the get go.
It turns out it's none of those. The show has an identity crisis. Instead of pleasing everyone, it's pleasing no one.
I would love there to be a well written and acted family centric theme in the exotic TN locale but instead we get unwatchable crap. Massive fail.
And yes the network "blame" will be that Sci-Fi doesn't get ratings. Piss me off!
That's how I felt about it after just watching the pilot. I get what Fox was attempting (a demo-crossing, mass-pleasing blockbuster) but it's just not landing the way they hoped. I don't know if it's "TV Fatigue" or what but I watched the pilot and didn't care about a single character, conflict, or storyline, especially anything to do with teenage angst. I get the appeal of the show as something families can watch together--they have the angsty/romance plots, the big time "never before done on TV" action sequences, the "jurrasic park" vibe... But at the end of the day it just comes across as very...pointless. To me.
If this was even ten years ago, a show of this scope/cost pulling in 6.5M viewers a week would definitely not see another season. I just can't see how the cost can be justified by that return. By comparison, wasn't Lost (which I believe was the biggest show ever produced at that time) averaging between 15-20 million viewers a week in it's first season?
People that tried the show because of the Sci Fi got turned off by the family crap. People that would care about the family crap never tried it because they saw it was a Sci Fi show. Sometimes you just gotta pick an audience and shoot for that. Trying to catch everyone doesn't always work.
Something along those lines hit me when looking at the show logo.
In the center there's a representation of the Earth as it apparently is supposed to be at that point in history, namely one of the periods when all the continents were merged together into one.
Could this human population seriously expect to survive with all the devastation that's ahead of them, including not only the movement of the land masses, but also (likely) the meteor that's thought to have wiped out the dinosaurs?
Why even bother to put people back then when you know there's no way their descendants could possibly survive? 'Humanity gets a second chance' to do what? Die?
You referring to Pangea?
I don't think it matters about whether their descendants can survive. I don't think that portal gave them any choice as to where it would go. Where it went seemed like a much better place to live than remaining in time TN started out in.
The asteroid is 20 MILLION years in their future. I think they have time to worry about that later.
Similarly, continental drift takes place over geologic time. It's not really a destructive force on the timescales of human civilization. I mean, yes, it unleashes the occasional earthquake or volcanic eruption. But that's no different today than it was 85 million years ago, or not much.
In fact they have a potentially tremendous advantage in having the geologic record to read from our time. They know that, at least in the original timeline, they can expect 20 million years without a mass extinction event. And anything that doesn't conform to that timeline will only be the result of their own actions. That's a far more secure future than we can project.
That's only true to the extent that this apparently seperate timeline tracks with earth's original one.
And while I can't think of any "butterfly flapping it's wings" type permutation that the Terra Nova colonists could do that would alter the course of an anteroid, that doesn't mean that all asteroids in this alternate timeline follow the same courses as they did in the original. (If it's not a classic branched timeline but actually an alternate universe then who knows what could happen. You can't be sure of the 20 million years)
Then it's not worth discussing. It either follows the old Earth's timeline or it doesn't. If it does they are 20 Million years from the big hit. If it doesn't they have no clue when it'll hit..just like before they went through the gate.
Pangea's only one of the times all the continents were merged. I'm no expert on pre-history, and wasn't sure which term would be used to describe the single continent at the time they're supposed to be living. Different names have been applied to the different versions of the single continent.
The opening credits are misleading -- it was not a single continent at that time. More like this:
This show is like a houseboat...Not a very good house and not a very good boat.
This show is failing the Sleep Test for me so far. I want to like it, but I've yet to remain awake through an entire episode. So far I've remained invested enough to go back the next day and finish up, but the impetus to return has decreased with each episode. I'm in their target demographic, but this is one target they're missing.
I find it difficult to watch an episode straight through. I don't fall asleep, but I do think of other things to do and then I go do them. After the last episode I canceled the SP on my Premiere and and added it to my S2 so that it can record the rest of the season. If I still have enough interest in a few months I'll watch, but my guess is that I'll just delete everything and forget about it.
I realize that this is an old thread and I already replied to this, but I wanted to make this point more clearly:
The wording of your question implies that you think of continental drift as something that happened in the past, that's done now. That's not the case. It's an ongoing process. The rate varies over time, but AFAIK the rate today is not drastically different than it was 85 million years ago. If the global map seems static to you today, that's only because, in the pitiful 5000 years or so of recorded human history, the continents have had time to move less than a kilometer. But if we go back 85 million years, we're talking about an interval 17,000 times that long.
So, to resurrect once again. I have not watched the finale, but, the bumper at the end of the penultimate episode seemed to indicate that the finale will be the SERIES finale. They said something to the effect of see the Finale (not season finale) and watch how it all ENDS.
So is that it?
The season finale would make a very poor series finale. I'm sure it's not intended to be the ending, though it might be.
I believe when they were writing these episodes, there was still the chance that the show would get a full-season pick-up. So they must have had in mind that it could be the series finale, the season finale, or just the mid-season finale.
Interesting story published this morning about what could be done to improve the show (yes, there's still a chance the show could be picked up for a season two.)