Is it me or is DirecTV HD a ripoff?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by BBQ Chicken, Dec 23, 2005.

  1. Lee L

    Lee L Got Basenji?

    Oct 1, 2003
    Morrisville, NC


    SO, how big is the largest hard drive in a Cable HD PVR? Seems like the biggest I have heard is a 160 gig, which gives you what, 18-20 hours maybe. That is a serious detriment right there for me. The HR10-250 is about 30 hours out of the box and I added a 250 gig drive for 63 hours.

    Plus, the HD Tivo works better than most cable PVR's. I have freinds with the Sci Atlanta 8000 and 8000HD and they lock up on a pretty consistent basis so tehy have to be rebooted once a week.

    Yes, things can be obtained slightly cheaper, but often they are not as good.
  2. mike_k

    mike_k Registered User

    Sep 20, 2005
    Mason, OH
    Just realize that not only will you have to pay $250 (or whatever it is) for Sunday Ticket - and ~ $10 per month for D* HD, you will also have to pay $99 per year to get SportsFan - which is required to get Sunday Ticket in HD. (And hopefully &$*%& CBS will get their *$&% together soon and start broadcasting more than 3 games per week in HD).
  3. rkester

    rkester a rkester says what?

    Jan 10, 2005
    tulsa area,...
    I'd love to have DTVHD but I cannot bring myself to spend $11 a month plus cost of receivre (yes I know theres a rebate but i still have to ponyup $200 at first for a reciever). And the fact that there are only 4 channels I might watch in HD (dont like sports so ESPN1/2 are worthless). Just doesnt seem very money friendly right now. Besides Im hoping to see them move to more HD content soon with the MP4 stuff and get on board then.
  4. flmgrip

    flmgrip New Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    los angeles, CA
    luckily there are guys like me who are willing to pay the $11.- a months now.

    if everyone would have the sentiment of "i wait until it gets cheap or free" a lot of things would be moving slower. show your interest now and things will move faster.

    and for the D* HD package. you will have at least 3 months for free to see if you like it or not. some complain, i love it. but that's because of my taste of programming. i love disc.HD, lots of really great programming. HDnet has good stuff, concerts etc., there is some good movies too. but if you don't like sports, movies from 3 years ago or discovery, there is no reason to get the HD package, but the HD tivo still might be worthwhile to you if you like to watch shows like lost, my name is earl and many more which are broadcast in HD too...

    i have no regrets, but i think the tivo (instead of just the receiver) is crucial. because you can search for HD shows you like and record them and then watch them. you won't be bound to their schedule.
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002


    I agree!
  6. jspencer

    jspencer New Member

    Dec 23, 2001
    Orlando FL
    It's a poor value at best based on content offered
  7. 2nd2no1

    2nd2no1 New Member

    May 24, 2005
    laurel, MD
    I have to agree and you left out "24".
  8. jeffl

    jeffl New Member

    Jul 12, 2004
    I started to subscribe to the hd package when it started and I just cancelled yesterday. The programming is not worth the money especially after football season ends. D* is the worst provider now as far as hd goes. I went back home for the holidays to visit my family. They live in a small town 40 miles from Pittsburgh. Checking out their hd line up (Comcast) really depressed me.
    1. All Locals
    2. Hbo, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax
    3. Hdnet movies, Inhd
    4. Discovery
    5. Espn's
  9. flmgrip

    flmgrip New Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    los angeles, CA
    they get Hbo, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax in HD with their HD package or because they subscribe to the movie channels ??

    because besides of the movies, that's what i get with the HD package (but i got showtime free for six months when i signed up)
  10. elvisisded

    elvisisded New Member

    Apr 7, 2001
    I get all that now with DTV! I'm not understanding the complaint here. :mad:
  11. kbohip

    kbohip New Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    The only reason I got my HD-Tivo was to watch prime time network shows in HD. The $11 a month Directv wants for their crappy HD package is a joke at best. Half the time I look on the guide the shows on those channels aren't even in HD anyway. I'll be cancelling it as soon as my 50% off deal runs out on it. This will free up that money for Sirius. :)
  12. rmassey

    rmassey Damn, these are fun!

    Sep 5, 2002
    You get Starz and InHD from D*? When did this happen?
  13. HiDefGator

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    I think what most people don't realize when they upgrade to HD is that sports, discovery channel shows, and prime time network shows are all that's made with HD cameras today.

    If one or more of those things isn't important enough to you to pay $11 a month to record in HD than yes the HD package is a rip off.

    I personally love all three in HD and can't imagine going back to SD for any of them. The HD picture quality is addictive. If they converted more channels to HD what would be the point? Few of the other channels on the dial have any HD content today. Starz might be nice but movies aren't filmed with HD cameras yet so watching one in HD is only slightly better than watching it in SD.

    Where DirecTV saves you money is when you want multiple SD and HD DVR's in your house. Try pricing that at your local cable company for a monthly bill. Last but not least my local cable company still supplies the vast majority of the channels in analog. And poor signal quality analog at that.
  14. ggalindo

    ggalindo New Member

    Sep 9, 2005
    First, I cannot believe that I would agree with someone with the name "Gator"!

    But I do agree, and would like to add my $.02 Would I like more HD channels, of course, proportionally, is the $11 worth an additional 5 channels when you get over 100 for $29-$39, probably not. Are we subsidizing D* with the fee, of course. However, I think it is fairly priced at the moment for the following reasons:

    1. HD is like flying first class, once you have done it, you don't really want to go back. D* of course is targeting the sports fan through their HD choices, which is fine with me, and if you are a sports fan, the $11 is clearly worth it. However, my wife loves watching much of the other non-sports programming on HD; I tend to think there is enough variety to be satisfactory.

    2. If we watch one evenings worth of shows or a movie in HD (that we likely would not watch in SD), instead of going out, we have saved money. If we simply went to the movies, that would be $14, add dinner, that is another $20-$30. I can tell you that having sports and movies/shows on HD has kept us at home at least 3 or 4 nights a month on average; well worth the $11.

    I sometimes think people look at cable/satellite pricing as a comparison against the standard cost or base cost and then place a value on incremental services based on that base cost (I know I often do). Nobody wants to get nickled and dimed to death, but I think in the case of HD, the value is certainly there for me.
  15. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

    Sep 6, 2004

    Even a 16mm film camera is an HD camera by definition. Every movie and TV show shot on film can be telecine'd to HD video. The HD Pak includes "Charlie's Angels" and "Hogan's Heroes", both in true HD, and both produced when the ATSC format was decades away from being even a gleam in anyone's eyes. I just saw "The Wizard of Oz" in true HD, and that was filmed in what, 1939?

    That means just one thing...when DT becomes the norm rather than the exception, all of these old TV shows and movies will be transferred using HD telecine and we will be watching virtually everything ever shot on film as HD. Maybe I'll even think about getting the HD Pak again at that point.
  16. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

    Sep 6, 2004
    Half the time? More like 85% of the time on ESPN2HD. I'm not paying 11 bucks for 6 hours a day of fat morons playing poker. In SD.

    But if you are disappointed that the resolution is not high on the HD Pak, you will be crying your eyes out once you go to Sirius. I've got a string and two Dixie cups that have better audio. Maybe instead of that little dog, they should use that as their logo.
  17. HiDefGator

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Maybe so. But the movies in HD on HBO do not have the clarity that the shows on the discover channel do. If I can't see the pores in the skin on the actor's nose then it doesn't meet my definition of HD.
  18. Redux

    Redux No intent to annoy

    Oct 19, 2004
    That's certainly what I watch movies for.
  19. flmgrip

    flmgrip New Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    los angeles, CA
    you are highly confused my friend.

    video and film are two different things. HD discovery, sports and live shows (if in HD) are the only things filmed with HD Video.

    there are a FEW prime time shows that are filmed with HD video, but 90%-95% of prime time HD is filmed on 35mm film and that will not change for some time due to the cost and availability of HD equipment. shooting HDvideo is not yet cheaper than shooting 35mm film

    if you THOUGHT that all prime time shows are HDvideo and you liked it, but you don't like HD-hbo than you might have just watched a bad transfer or an older movie.

    and to correct TyroneShoes, a show filmed in the 30's will have a lower quality than a show filmed now. film has not always been the same and there is constant improvements still done with film stock too. especially in the last 10 years or so.
  20. flmgrip

    flmgrip New Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    los angeles, CA
    of course you get starz... and what the heck is InHD ?

    or are you saying you get all the HD movie channels by subscribing to the HD package and NOT the movie packages ?

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