Is Hydra worth it?

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  1. Jan 5, 2019 #1 of 38
    beej210

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    I’ve got a bolt vox plus 2 minis (1st gen). Everything functions fine and up to this point I’ve had no reason to upgrade to Hydra. When Hydra first came out I know there were a ton of issues.

    My question: is It worth it to upgrade at this point? Is it as stable as the old software?
     
  2. Jan 5, 2019 #2 of 38
    ufo4sale

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    One word Yes.
     
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    global_dev

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    i’m one who prefers it. I just dont use most of the features from mira that most take issue with not being in hydra. Whatever bugs/issues that used to be issues, i’m not noticing.

    the only feature i miss is kmttgs skip service.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2019 #4 of 38
    PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    No. Not even a little bit.
     
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  5. Jan 6, 2019 #5 of 38
    rdrrepair

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    I've got one New Bolt and one 9300 mini on Mira/Hydra. My older Bolt+, Premiere, Roamio and two other minis are on the Encore platform. Both platforms are stable and function well.

    Currently the Bolt on Hydra/Mira is suffering from a "website" related issue with the app not functioning with the ToDo list.

    A high level TiVo employee that frequents the site (@TiVo_Ted) has stated that all the new bells and whistles, that TiVo will be releasing, is going to be geared towards this new platform. There will be fewer releases, and minimal updates, to the older platform.

    I've got no problem with the functioning of my TiVo on either platform. My wife doesn't like it but the kids do. I'm interested in what's new and hope the big news and newest features are enticing enough to have my wife get onboard with the new platform.

    Hoping for newer features with more apps on my Hydra/Mira Bolt. I don't currently see a major overriding reason to upgrade but am hopeful for the future.

    But... the newest release has some CEC support, so that's a plus.

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  6. Jan 6, 2019 #6 of 38
    TonyD79

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    There were no issues in terms of bugs. There are features that did not carry over. And still haven’t. If you don’t use those features or don’t see them as essential, then Hydra is faster and more consistent.
     
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  7. Jan 6, 2019 #7 of 38
    gigaquad

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    If you like to keep a stash of movies, shows, home movies, etc. on your computer and transfer them over to your tivos for watching (all my stuff is digital) then you'll hate Hydra.

    If you only watch stuff "in the cloud" (netflix, hulu, etc) then you shouldn't care one way or another, other than finding everything in the new interface.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2019 #8 of 38
    schatham

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    No!
     
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    TonyD79

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    Or Plex. Which has a better interface than TiVo for archived programming anyway. And can easily be viewed anywhere.
     
  10. rdrrepair

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    The Plex app on TiVo does the same thing.
     
  11. TonyD79

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    It does it better, actually.
     
  12. Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Whether or not Hydra is "worth it" is a judgement only you can make for yourself. Everyone has opinions, and you need to form your own. There is little is TE4 (Hydra) that isn't also in TE3 (Encore) with the exception voice command and the newly rolled out HDMI-CEC support (which is rather underwhelming at present, but works). I don't recall if the Alexa and ITTT functions were made available to TE3, but that could be another couple of missing features.

    The only major TE3 feature missing from TE4 is transfer of recordings from PC to TiVo. The "live guide" is different in TE4, being a lower screen pop-up and so much smaller than the TE3 version. The Grid guide is the default guide in TE4. But you should make your own decision.

    The only thing I would advise everyone to consider is that TE4 was designed for the demands of TiVO's cable customers, not directly for the retail users. It was, therefore, not designed to be a follow on to TE3 but moved to the sort of highly graphic interfaces used in other DVR software (Comcast X1, Android TV, etc.). This also means that a good percentage of new features will be only available on the new platform, but so far, TiVo has kept this to a minimum.
     
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  13. OrangeCrush

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    TE3 has Alexa & ITTT support
     
  14. mattack

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    What does this even mean? Do you mean shows downloaded off of the Tivo, or old shows that still exist on the tivo, or what?

    at least for those who the streaming works for (not me), the built in streaming/downloading can allow things to be viewed anywhere..

    but if you mean a better way to watch my shows downloaded off of my tivo than either streambaby or pytivo-ing them back to the Tivo.. (and/or a way to watch away from home from my external hard drive), then I might be intrigued.
     
  15. kpeters59

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    I use my TiVo for watching shows that are on my TiVo. And some streaming, if the show is discovered by the TiVo and can be accessed that way simply.

    Almost all other media is watched via either Plex or the very similar Kodi. Everything. Shows from TiVo, Ripped DVD's/BluRay's, internet files, etc...

    If I decide to watch something's that's not on my TiVo, a missed TV show or a ripped movie, it's not a big deal to switch to my Kodi box and start watching.

    -KP
     
  16. jcthorne

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    Actually, plex does not allow the content to be integrated into the my shows list along with other recordings and shows from other streaming services like Amazon and Netflix. The plex content is walled off and only viewable in the app. Content transferred to the tivo was integrated with all other content in the my shows list for a single menu.
     
  17. Diana Collins

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    I have over 2,000 titles on my Plex server...I can’t imagine how long that would take to load if they were all on my recording list. It would be cool if they searched Plex when you do a TiVo search, and the API exists, but that’s minor.

    Plex isn’t a replacement for PC->TiVo transfers, it is a way to watch “stored elsewhere” content via the TiVo (or Roku, Apple TV, PCs, game consoles, mobile devices, etc.).
     
  18. shamilian

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    Did Tivo ever implement a single My Shows List for your entire home ?

    I have multiple Tivos and I have to remember which Tivo has a movie I have recorded.

    I have been able to use the transfer function to try to group my movies, but I understand that Hydra does not let you move/transfer the recordings around any more, is that correct ?
    ( I can't move them if they have copy protection ) The transfer function allows me to make more even use of my disk space, so I can copy onto a Tivo which is not very full....

    Where does Hydra get info for display for Netflix and Amazon, I find Tivo/Rovi info is sparse or just missing but Netflix and Amazon have great amount of info, I think Amazon uses IMDB info which is pretty complete.
     
  19. shamilian

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    Is there an easy way to move movies from Tivo to store onto Plex server that does not require too much human intervention ?
     
  20. kpeters59

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    I use KMTTG to get files off my TiVo to any folder I choose. You can set the resultant file name with a large amount of flexibility so Plex can index them.

    -KP
     

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