Is Farscape worth it?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by disco, Jun 25, 2005.

  1. DLiquid

    DLiquid Progressive User

    4,452
    0
    Sep 17, 2001

    Advertisements

    It's worth it. Farscape definitely gets better in seasons 3 and 4. That said, I liked it from the beginning.

    One of my favorites from season one is DNA Mad Scientist. I love that one.
     
  2. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    19,277
    1,661
    Oct 23, 2001
    Northern...
    That seems a somewhat odd order, given that "the one about the soul hunters" aka River of Souls takes place after season 5, not between seasons 2 and 3. (Well technically the lurker's guide master episode list places it between episodes 22 and 23 of season 5.)

    Thirdspace goes between episodes 8 and 9 of season 4, although between seasons 3 and 4 isn't hugely out of place...

    I do agree that In the Beginning shouldn't be watched until after season 4.

    Also, you left out the Crusade Pilot movie A Call To Arms, which should be seen before Crusade.


    Oh, and if you wanted to be really picky chronologically, River of Souls, A Call To Arms, the Crusade series, and Legend of the Rangers should all take place after episode 22 of season 5 and prior to episode 23, because the last episode skips fairly far into the future to do the wrap up.
     
  3. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

    35,616
    65
    Aug 18, 2002
    SE PA
    i just finished S1 of farscape since my gf highly recommended the show. i do love how it's so different than SG1. i think farscape is more of a social space show and stargate is more action and 'space fights'. pilot is definitely my fav character.

    also, a local station runs 2 stargates every weekend and i faithfully watch them but i dont think i'd watch farscape again..at least until i forgot what went on, then i may.

    while i'm positive i watched every sg1 i have no recollection of oneill being a general. so with my poor memory, these are all new again :)

    it will be a few more months until i'm done watching farscape but so far i'm glad i am watching.
     
  4. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    12,810
    207
    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Wow...talk about resurrecting an old thread...
     
  5. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL

    Advertisements

    It's three years later, and I'm bumping it again! :)

    I just started re-watching this series on Netflix for the first time since it originally aired. It has always been one of my absolute favorites, and it holds up amazingly well. One disappointment with the Netflix versions is that they are not in DD 5.1. I was under the impression that the sound was remixed to DD 5.1 for the blu-rays. Can anyone confirm this?
     
  6. J4yDubs

    J4yDubs Member

    221
    0
    Jul 3, 2002
    Jamison, PA
    Don't have the Bluray's, but the DVD's have 5.1, so I'm sure the Bluray's do also.

    My last viewing (second time) was 5-6 years ago. Might be time to rewatch it again with the kids. Not sure it'll hold them though.

    John
     
  7. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Yankee Fan

    744
    123
    Jul 8, 2002
    Fresno, CA
    The Blu-rays have DTS-HD MA 5.1.
     
  8. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    I've got the DVD's as well. I guess I'll have to dig them up. I can't stand watching shows in matrixed surround sound when a discrete 5.1 mix is available. I'm curious to see how the DVDs look compared to the Netflix versions. It's a shame that they didn't have the foresight to hold on to the original 35mm negatives. The show certainly deserved a Star Trek level remastering.
     
  9. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    Interesting. This may be a good enough incentive to pick up the Blu-rays. Do they sound noticeably better than the DVDs?
     
  10. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    Update:

    I now own the Blu-ray set, and I did some experimenting to see how the picture quality varies on the different formats. Here's how I would rank them from best to worst:

    Blu-ray
    DVD
    Netflix
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Hulu (distant 4th)

    The Blu-ray picture is noticeably sharper than the other formats. DVD and Netflix look pretty similar, with DVD having a slight edge. My Oppo does a great job of upscaling, so it's possible that Netflix may look better on some setups. The audio is definitely by far the best on Blu-ray. The sound is crisper and much more immersive.
     
  11. David Ortiz

    David Ortiz Yankee Fan

    744
    123
    Jul 8, 2002
    Fresno, CA
    Yes, the Blu-ray set is worth getting just for the audio.

    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Farscape-The-Complete-Series-Blu-ray/79765/#Review
     
  12. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    12,810
    207
    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    I picked up the Blu-ray set two years ago for $52 on an Amazon special...WELL worth it
     
  13. Fahtrim

    Fahtrim Member

    796
    11
    Apr 12, 2004
    Missouri
    See above, my opinion has NOT changed!
     
  14. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    There's one more thing about the audio on the Blu-rays that I forgot to mention. For some reason, I needed to delay the DTS-HD Master Audio track by about 100ms in order for sound to properly sync with the picture. I'm sure this isn't the case on everyone's system, but I thought it was worth noting.
     
  15. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

    4,851
    180
    Feb 2, 2006
    Ellicott...
    The audio would be the only thing worthwhile to buy the Blu-Ray set over the DVDs. The video quality of the BD discs is about the same as the DVDs and was apparently never mastered in HD.

    I'm also a big fan of B5. Unfortunately it was never released on Blu-Ray. The original masters were all destroyed in a fire, IIRC and all of the CGI was lost. It's a shame because J. Michael Straczynski had his cameras configured so that the viewing area could be displayed in either 4:3 or 16:9 without cutting off any of the important parts of the scene.

    Now if you really want an off-the-wall Sci-Fi series check out Lexx. One of the most bizarre shows ever. There were several movies made that aired on Showtime and then became a regular series that ran for several seasons.
     
  16. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,297
    1,126
    Mar 23, 2003
    Northbrook, IL
    I couldn't get into Lexx. I tried watching it after Farscape was over, and it just seemed like such a jumbled, inferior mess in comparison. Perhaps I need to go back and give it another shot.
     
  17. MarkofT

    MarkofT ****

    9,050
    621
    Jul 27, 2001
    Where Texas...
    Lexx is kind of an ADD show. It's mostly a SciFi/Skinemax series.
     
  18. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    19,277
    1,661
    Oct 23, 2001
    Northern...
    Some directors were better about this than others, there are a few oddities in some live scenes the 16:9 DVDs. Also because much of the CGI data was lost even before the DVDs came out the original plan of re-rendering the battles in widescreen was scrapped in favor of simply cropping off the top and bottom of the existing 4:3 scenes to make them fit into 16:9.

    For those reasons I'd have preferred to be able to buy that set in 4:3. (Hey, that's one way to get more money out of me. Rerelease B5, upscaled, on Bluray but use the space to put both ratios on the disk so I can choose to watch in 4:3. I'd rebuy :D)
     
  19. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Well-Known Member

    4,851
    180
    Feb 2, 2006
    Ellicott...
    IIRC, JMS had his cameras set up so that the main part of every scene would be captured within a frame shown in the camera viewfinder. The overall image was much larger so it could be cropped for either 4:3 or 16:9 and not lose any of the scene info. For 4:3 they simply cropped off the sides. For 16:9 they cropped the top and bottom. A very simple approach and one that I'm surprised more directors didn't adopt. I guess JMS just had a better vision of the future than the rest.
     
  20. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    19,277
    1,661
    Oct 23, 2001
    Northern...
    He did. But in some episodes they weren't careful enough to keep the key action entirely within the subset of the image that was common to 4:3 and 16:9.
    As I recall there are a few times when on the 16:9 DVDs the top of an actor's head is off the top of the screen because it was more important to keep their hands in view and 16:9 (at the zoom level used) wasn't tall enough to get both in frame. (I'm guessing the director of the episode wanted a closer zoom in to look better in 4:3 and didn't so much care that it might look odd in 16:9 if/when it was ever shown that way)
    Similarly they weren't perfect about keeping equipment entirely out of the 16:9 only area of frame; if it didn't show up in the 4:3 image that would be broadcast they'd accept the take.

    Still it was a very ambitious approach, and one that worked shockingly well given that they didn't have an immediate practical use for the 16:9 alternate crop. However despite it's interesting approach, at the end of the day I'd go back to watching it in 4:3 if I could. (My feeling would likely be different if the CGI had been able to be rerendered so the space battles took full advantage of the extra width of widescreen; instead of the zoomed and cropped from 4:3 image that we got due to the unavailability of the original CGI data)
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2016

Share This Page

spam firewall

Advertisements