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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by disco, Jun 25, 2005.
No problem. I get really defensive about Farscape!
Well, I watched the first two episodes (on the DVD's, at least: eps 1 & 7), and I'm not on board. It's production value seemed lacking to me, and rather low grade at times (the blocking of any fights seemed weak). I just couldn't get into the plot or the characters after how PERFECT the cast/character development for Firefly were (from episode 1 of Firefly, the characters were rich and defined. I didn't find that from Farscape).
I'll wait for the next disc, but I may just be a snobbish Firefly fan who expects MORE now.
If it helps, I'm in the same boat. I'm spoiled by having seen Firefly, which was fantastic right out of the gate and only got better, before being introduced to Farscape.
I tried watching the first 3 episodes of Farscape after some serious cajoling, both from friends and other members on the board. And I'm decidedly unimpressed so far. But at the same time I keep hearing that, much like Buffy, the first season of Farscape is unintentionally slow paced in an attempt to establish the characters, and the second season is where the meat of the show starts to appear.
So, I may pick it up again at some later point once I get done with a few other shows, but I feel your pain about Farscape. It just didn't grab me right away. I really want to like the show (especially since folks rave so much about it), but I think I'm skewed.
It's funny how you say this because I had the opposite reaction. I turned the first episode of Firefly off halfway through as I quickly became disinterested in it (this is when it ran on Fox). Admittedly, this was before I was exposed to Buffy and the Whedon. I'm going to try Firefly through Netflix after I finish Buffy season 7.
But Farscape grabbed me when I came into it midway through season 3. I jumped into some really good plotlines and enjoyed it ever since. That being said, season 1 is uneven, and it really comes into its own at the end of season 1 into season 2, and becomes great at the end of season 2 onward.
I explain the difference between the two shows as this: (your opinion may vary and is probably better expressed that this)
Firefly - The series basically starts with a group of people that work together and get along. You add 3 people to the mix... one helpful/friendly, one nieve/friendly, and one... well.. "interesting" is a good word to describe her. You then have the stories of their adventures and them trusting their new guests.
Farscape - The series begins with 2 "groups" of people. The one group was the prisoners on Moya... who had just taken over the ship and really didn't like each other (tolerate may even be too strong). You then have the human outsider who stumbles into this group and is immediately not trusted by anyone. With this group, it took a while for not only the story to get better... but the characters relationships had to warm to each other as well.
Not knocking either series; since I like them both! I think that I like Farscape over Firefly... but only because I've seen the show several times and have more of an emotional tie to it than Firefly (which I've only seen once... and that was on DVD).
Take it from a died-in-the-wool Farscape fan (who's never seen Firefly - but will soon!). It took me a good year to get in to Farscape, understand all the nuances with relationships, politics, etc. But it was well worth the wait.
It does get better as far as characters and plot. By a lot. Stylistically, it always keeps that sort of cheeky humor and fast pace. It's very imaginative, sometimes too much. I wish star trek had such imagination about the species.
Ditto for me, though I did give Firefly a bit longer than a single episode. I think I stuck it out for about three. And I was a big Buffy and Angel fan, a fan of two of the actors involved with Firefly and really looking forward to a new Joss Whedon project. Even with all that though, I just could not keep watching it. It bored me to tears.
Farscape, on the other hand, I was on board from the very first episode. The first season was uneven, but I still enjoyed most of it and the later seasons were amazing.
You should try it again using the DVDs... seeing the pilot (the real pilot, not the first episode aired on Fox) makes a big big difference.
I like both Farscape and SG1. They are defiantely different types of shows, but I'd recommend both to anyone asking.
Sorry to bring an old trhead from the dead, but I just watched the first 2 episodes on DVD and I'm not that impressed. Does this show get better as the season/series progresses?
I am rewatching the series from the beginning. I am half way thru season 2 and there was a lot I missed. Apparently I only started watching around season 3. They stumbled around a bit during the beginning years. The main bad guy makes his entrance towards the end of season 1. But it still is hit or miss thru season 2. I recall once I got into the characters, though, it was really enjoyable. Stick it out, seasons 3 and 4 are a lot of fun.
Yes, most definitely, as I pointed out above. The first season kind of dragged... there was nothing particularly bad about the first season and a half... but it really ramps up as it goes along. By the time you've finished watching the series and the movie (miniseries), you're hooked. It's kind of like a roller coaster, where you have a long wait as you climb up the first hill, not knowing that the good stuff is once the ride really gets going.
You didn't like the pilot episode?!?!
I did. It was rip roaring fun. But some of the first and second season episodes were hit or miss.
Farscape is kind of shaky, the first half of season 1. Gets really good near the end of the season, though, once Scorpius comes onto the scene...
Like I said, I wasn't impressed.
After B5, Farscape is my favorite sci fi. Firefly ranks up there also, but it just wasn't on long enough (BURN IN HELL FOX). SG1 is a good show, but not a must watch. I watch it here and there.
I think the dialog (writing) is what I like about Farscape and Firefly. Both are very witty. Farscape also has a lot of continuity (like B5, but not as epic) where Firefly didn't get the chance.
Another witty show, though not sci fi, is Sports Night. It was short lived also, but worth watching.
Is it worth it? Not only yes but HELL YES.
If you like Firefly and you're going throw shows by season on DVD the one to try next is Babylon 5. It ran 5 seasons and had several made-for-TV movies. Among all the SF shows on it's the one that resembles Firefly the most in visual style. My bias - I like pretty much all SF series but I consider Babylon 5 to be the best of the best among all of them.
I like Farscape and SG1. Not as much as either Babylon 5 or Firefly but I watch them and I have season passes to both Stargate shows. Farscape has an odd and disorganized story line. SG1 is hilarious since it's constantly making wisecracks about other SF shows.
Firefly, Babylon 5, Farscape are all on DVD so they compete in this space head to head. The Stargate shows are in current broadcast as well as DVD so they have the season pass edge.
A good ordering for the Babylon 5 films relative to the seasons goes something like the below. Most particularly don't get tempted to play "In the Beginning" at the beginning because it requires a few seasons before you have enough context for it and the context it gives ruins too much of the mystery of the pilot The Gathering and the first couple of seasons:
Movie - The Gathering.
Season 1 B5
Season 2 B5
Movie - the one about the soul hunters
Season 3 B5
Movie - Thirdspace
Season 4 B5
Movie - In the Beginning
Season 5 B5
Movie - Legend of the Rangers