"Inventing the DVR was just a warmup"

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by dig_duggler, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Mar 3, 2010 #641 of 682
    Joe3

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    As I stated in another thread:

    TiVo, we have a problem, maybe!

    I have been trying to get my head around this tech company's big deal announcement, but couldn’t quiet put my finger on what is going on until now.

    TiVo is no longer a leading edge tech company and the economic rescission we are in is covering up for what otherwise would be obvious.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but the CPU capacity existed for an HD IU at the introduction of the Series 3. The capacity should have been built into the Series 3 when it came not now in the Series 4. The Series 4 is using a duel core processor that just about covers the HD IU.

    Why is TiVo not building its box to the edge of today’s high tech processors and technology? I believe that they have abandoned not so much their customers but their status as being cutting edge high tech for a Marketing plan that is more IBM than Apple. This is the uninspired, not turned on, disappointed hole they leave in everyone's gut when introduce their product.

    Instead letting the technology set the limit of their box, they are allowing their marketing people to artificially set tech limits that they can control by holding back some of the latest tech. They blame Hollywood and their content restriction which have nothing to with the tech that always leap frogs over what Hollywood is complaining about. They blame the consumer as not being able to afford the cutting edge stuff that should be in their boxes anyway by over charging for last years tech, keeping the TiVo faithful on their marketing meat hook. So you will see today’s latest tech in tomorrow’s Series 5 and it will again be disappointing but not enough for most to be knocked off the marketing hook. They disappoint because they are purposefully behind the tech curve in an outdated and old adoptive marketing model.

    My theory is that they are always going to disappoint because they are now more a marketing company than tech. However, this may be the beginning of the end for TiVo because the high tech gap they are willing to give up for a manipulative marketing strategy makes them extremely vulnerable for a smaller high tech company to take their dominance away.

    Just a thought! :D
     
  2. Mar 3, 2010 #642 of 682
    wmcbrine

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    Perhaps "Premie".
     
  3. Mar 3, 2010 #643 of 682
    ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    what does this even mean???

    what does this mean again?? Still if people do not buy 800$ DVRs they do not buy them - there is no blame, there also is no business model. Point me to the 800$ DVR that is selling well. Have you heard of Moxi and its current sales issues?

    man, I laughed really hard at this. TiVo throws up a tagline that way overhypes expectations for what could have been a really sucessful anouncement of an exceptional HD UI and you say TiVo is a marketing company? :p
     
  4. Mar 3, 2010 #644 of 682
    MediaLivingRoom

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    It's really TiVo Series 3.1 with Search out of beta.
     
  5. Mar 3, 2010 #645 of 682
    solutionsetc

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    I think your entire post was pretty well said. I have listened to countless rebuttal by the TiVo defender crowd as to why we don't have this and why we haven't yet got that… with the status quo of their arguments that TiVo is working on something big for the next series.

    Instead what we get is a flashy wrapper on top of a stale feature set, with not a single usability issue, that many have been asking for for years, addressed.

    I wonder how many man hours it took to script the new interface in Flash? This is what we've been waiting years for!

    Rest in Peace, TiVo.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2010 #646 of 682
    solutionsetc

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    Very cute, and surprisingly poignant.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2010 #647 of 682
    MickeS

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    Yes, I get 50% off of LT on a Premiere when I select to show the offers based on my LT Series 2.

    Not sure if that answers any question though. :D
     
  8. Mar 3, 2010 #648 of 682
    ZeoTiVo

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    there you go with many again. Is it not time for you to dicth TiVo then and move on to whatever company is making a better DVR for you?
     
  9. Mar 3, 2010 #649 of 682
    audioscience

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    Yeah, I don't think I have any usability issues with Tivo.
     
  10. Mar 3, 2010 #650 of 682
    Joe3

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    Because today TiVo shows the world its just about marketing and has left the tech behind that company you allude to may be right around the corner for many people!

    Don't you get it? TiVo just jumped the "Tech Shark"
    :p
     
  11. Mar 3, 2010 #651 of 682
    Brainiac 5

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    I think the question really is, does it offer you 50% off of $399, or 50% off of $299?
     
  12. Mar 3, 2010 #652 of 682
    aindik

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    50% off $399 (minus 50 cents). When I logged in to check my upgrade offer, the offer was lifetime for $199.
     
  13. Mar 3, 2010 #653 of 682
    solutionsetc

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    Probably. But I have a contract to wait out.

    So how's that "TiVo innovation" you speak so frequently of working for you? All those inferences in your 20,000 plus posts about what we were gonna see in series 4.

    I have to say I find it pretty amusing. Kind of like your ship finally came in only to find its cargo bay empty. (c;
     
  14. Mar 3, 2010 #654 of 682
    aus1ander

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    I paid $299 for an MSD discount on my TiVoHD and got (and purchased) lifetime on a new Premiere for $200 off.
     
  15. Mar 3, 2010 #655 of 682
    aindik

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    Was your lifetime $199 or $99?
     
  16. Mar 3, 2010 #656 of 682
    dswallow

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    Well, it might be slightly tempting to dump the Series 2DT I bought back when I was making the Amazon Unbox HME app, which goes out of contract on 4/10 this year, and take advantage of the $239.99 offer on a Premiere HD.

    So that leaves me with just the should-I-just-get-Product-Lifetime-for-$200 and be done with it? Probably... hmmm...

    It just kinda grates me wrong to not buy the HD XL since everything else I have is THX. And I'd probably want the 1TB drive in there anyway. Ahh, this whole thing would be SIGNIFICANTLY easier if I could just go pick one up in person right now someplace. Impulse buys, and all that.
     
  17. Mar 3, 2010 #657 of 682
    aindik

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    Product lifetime at $199 or one year at $99? That's a no-brainer.
     
  18. Mar 3, 2010 #658 of 682
    morac

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    No one's lifetime upgrade offer is going to be $99.

    My S3 got it's lifetime from a transfer from my S2 back when that offer was offered. For a while I then used the S3 to get a MSD on my S2 until I canceled my S2's subscription. I checked the TiVo web site a number of times recently (prior to today) and was offered the ability to buy lifetime service for $299. So I could still get a MSD using my S3.

    Logging in today, I'm offered a premiere with lifetime for $199. So the MSD does not apply in the upgrade offer. Basically the offer is giving me $100 off what I'd normally pay. The 50% off offer is off the full price, not the MSD price.
     
  19. Mar 3, 2010 #659 of 682
    jscozz

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    Well.. if the 50% of llifetime for a new S4 is true, that will piss me off a bit... just added 2 HDs before Christmas and paid lifetime on both... so, I just wasted a few hundred dollars and got old hardware already... there should at least be a free lifetime transfer to S4 for anyone who just bought it in the last few months...
     
  20. Mar 4, 2010 #660 of 682
    lvthunder

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    Do you think you wasted money when a few months after you buy a car a new model comes out? This is technology here. It all gets replaced in short order. Just sit back and enjoy your 2 HD's and worry about the new stuff when you are ready to replace them. No one says that now that the new one is out the people who don't immediately upgrade are losers or anything.
     

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