Introducing TiVO Edge

Discussion in 'TiVo Edge' started by CloudAtlas, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. Oct 2, 2019 #101 of 284

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005


    Will the Edge fix the problem of OD for Comcast (Xfinity) customers that was removed some months ago on all TiVos ??
  2. Oct 2, 2019 #102 of 284

    KevTech Active Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    Up to Comcast to do that as they provide the app.
  3. Oct 2, 2019 #103 of 284

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    I was told it was because Comcast changed the way OD works the the current TiVo could not handle, can the Edge handle Comcast OD if Comcast wants to allow it ?
  4. Oct 2, 2019 #104 of 284

    dishrich Well-Known Member

    Jan 16, 2002
    Springfield, IL
    Until Comcast & Tivo get all of their lawsuits worked out, I HIGHLY doubt OD is coming back anytime soon
    AND...with their (SLOW) migration to IPTV, Tivo is going to be hard-pressed to get few, if any, Comcast TV subs to buy a new Tivo at this stage...unless the 2 work out a way for IPTV to be supported on Comcast. (again, ain't happening until all their lawsuits play out...)
  5. Oct 2, 2019 #105 of 284

    chrishicks Tivo Junkie

    Dec 30, 2003


    This is my concern right now. I used to have 4 Series 3 boxes that were rendered useless on Comcast when they moved to MPEG4. Now I'm using a Roamio as my main box with a pair of X1's as well. I would love to buy another Tivo but if Comcast decided to switch to IPTV in the next few months for example I'd have another expensive paperweight as far as Comcast use which is why I ended up with a second X1 instead. If Comcast decided to broadcast their system from Mars next week and my current box doesn't support it all I have to do is drive to a local office and get one that does. With Tivo not so much. And for anyone wanting to point out the cost of renting versus buying a Tivo it would take 4 years of renting before covering the cost of a new Tivo and who's to say Comcast will even be usable on it in say 2 years? That has to be a concern to some.
  6. Oct 2, 2019 #106 of 284

    seaninde Active Member

    Sep 23, 2019
    HAHA, I guess they just lied to you because you can see my post at 8:30am when I ordered mine lol.
  7. Oct 2, 2019 #107 of 284

    seaninde Active Member

    Sep 23, 2019
    I use Apple TV for all my streaming stuff, not Tivo, or anything built into TV. Apples system is just fast and works, plus I can rent movies from apple store.
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  8. Oct 2, 2019 #108 of 284

    buildersboy66 Active Member

    Dec 9, 2016
    I have no self restraint and purchased one too. 10/1
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  9. Oct 2, 2019 #109 of 284

    seaninde Active Member

    Sep 23, 2019
    Comcast charges both a DVR fee 19.95 and and HD fee 10.00 for me so I will save 50% a month. I bought the edge because my last Comcast DVR is dying and its the motorola box that has the clearest picture, but my local comcast phased them out. The web based compressed X1 pictures are so bad. I tried X1 and it was horrible. When you have a 6000.00 sony master series TV that produces an insanely clear picture if fed a decent signal, you don't settle for a crappy compressed feed. It needs a local hard drive based DVR.
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  10. Oct 2, 2019 #110 of 284

    seaninde Active Member

    Sep 23, 2019
    I doubt it, but I hardly use comcast OD because of its laggy interface and also the forced commercials you can't skip through on TV shows. Between Netflix, Amazon Prime and regular cable TV there is so much content already I could care less about on demand. For me it was no big loss as I rarely used it
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  11. Oct 2, 2019 #111 of 284
    cherry ghost

    cherry ghost Well-Known Member

    Sep 13, 2005
    I just want to know which 2TB drive they’re using so I can buy one for my Bolt that’s still new in the box.
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  12. Oct 2, 2019 #112 of 284

    wtherrell Active Member

    Dec 23, 2004
    Seems like a lot of money at the moment but my lifetime subscriptions have all paid for themselves many times over. Take your monthly fee and multiply by twelve. Divide that into the lifetime cost and you will see your break-even point in years. That was an eye opener for me. I always do the lifetime deal especially when it's offered at a reduced price.
  13. Oct 2, 2019 #113 of 284

    mntvjunkie Active Member

    May 12, 2009
    Comcast charges $10 a month for X1 in my area. At current TiVo prices, my break even would be 7.9 years. My current TiVo just turned 6, if I get 2 more years out of it without a new hard drive it’ll be pure luck. A new hard drive will add another year to break even for me (likely). If the power supply lasts 9 years, I’d be surprised.

    X1 is cheaper and less risky. I was willing to pay a premium for TiVo until preroll ads became the future plans. I had set aside money to buy this day 1, but with preroll ads and the impossibility of break even vs an X1, I’m gonna limp along with my current one, and then when it dies switch to X1.
  14. Oct 2, 2019 #114 of 284

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

    May 28, 2005
    New Mexico...
    Buying lifetime has always been a gamble, but mine too have always paid off - my series 3s are still running beyond 10 years each, and my Bolts paid off quick because of the high-discount transfer offers I used.

    BUT, I would NOT buy a new lifetime at the current prices. Just too high, and I absolutely do NOT trust Rovi after this recent forced-commercials crap they pulled.
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  15. Oct 2, 2019 #115 of 284

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

    Aug 2, 2003
    What they mean is, the old on-demand system was a hybrid, where the control codes were sent via IP, but the video itself was delivered via dedicated QAM channels. Comcast is ditching that in favor of a pure IP system.

    Every TiVo, back to the Series 2, is capable of streaming video over IP. They just have to write a new app for the TiVo to do it. It's not a hardware issue.
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  16. Oct 2, 2019 #116 of 284

    mntvjunkie Active Member

    May 12, 2009
    And with Tivo being so hostile towards Comcast, I wouldn't count on Tivo adding support for Comcast IPTV in any form, any time in the near future. Both companies are playing a game of chicken, but Tivo has stated that it's future business model is to force Xfinity to remove features until they have to fairly settle with Tivo. I certainly understand their position, but it is not a consumer-friendly one, as it means that both platforms are going to be sub-par (and in the end Comcast could easily deliver the final blow to Tivo by transitioning to all-IPTV if things get too sour. In my market, Xfinity has been all X1 for over 4 years now, and all new channels/services they roll out have been exclusively IPTV for at least the last 2 years. It really is a matter of time before they have enough of their own hardware out there to phase out non-IPTV delivery.

    With the two business units splitting, I could see a scenario where Comcast buys the patent side of the business, just to get the lawsuits finished. Then again, they could just wait for the patents to expire to turn the functionality back on, like they did with Remote Scheduling last week.
  17. Oct 2, 2019 #117 of 284

    zubinh Active Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Northeast USA
    I fail to realize why anyone would upgrade to this. Dolby Vision and Atmos on Netflix and Youtube seems to be the only added feature. This everyone has with Apple TV, Roku or Chromecast. Am I missing something?? What Tivo should do is focus their efforts on getting more apps capable of 4K/DV/Atmos. Namely Amazon Prime and Hulu.
  18. Oct 2, 2019 #118 of 284

    bob1000 New Member

    Aug 15, 2019
    Count me out.

    1) I would need a 6 tuner model so I could retire both of my 4 tuner Premieres. I wanted the savings on returning the 2nd cable card plus less electricity to cover a significant part of the initial cost over maybe 4 years. Almost $1,000 going out is ridiculous.

    2) My ROKU combined with my Premieres do a great job for TV and streaming. I use a Logitech 650 remote to control fast switches - 1 button for TV or 1 button for ROKU.

    3) The trend for Tivo commercials before recordings is quite off-putting. It defeats the purpose of commercial skip. Also, PlayOn Desktop offers acceptable commercial skip on recordings. Not perfect but not bad. Some channels have no ads thanks to the ad blocker associated with my router. (note a PC with strong processor is needed to avoid judder on recordings. Mine is an i5 with about 5400 Passmark. A J1900 is too weak.)
  19. Oct 2, 2019 #119 of 284

    mazman Member

    Nov 13, 2002
    Alamo, CA
    Do you think the on-demand solution will be to port the Xfinity Stream app to TiVo?
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2019
  20. Oct 2, 2019 #120 of 284

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    Maybe it was a different call center. Anyway, we're counting on you both for "Reports From the Edge", so-to-speak. OK?

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