Advertisements So first off I was always a happy and loyal Cablecard Tivo user from 2007 to 2018. However I moved to a Cox area and the cablecards, cablecard tuners were too much of a pain to go on with. Not to mention the eight headed monster that replaced the live guide. So I moved to Apple TV 4k, and mostly have been using Youtube TV, and Disney +. HBO Now and CBS Access just long enough to watch GOT and ST. I also have an iphone but I'm no Apple fanboy. I was really excited to give the new Tivo stream 4k a try. Most of my curiosity was how much better the Tivo mini peanut remote would work than the ridiculous Apple TV remote. As well as integration with Youtube TV. The bad, well covered. Does not matter to me, but no integration to existing Tivo DVR's is unsettling. I understand they would want to go a complete different route, but to dis their loyal base was not a prudent move. I believe they will lose lots of business until this is resolved. Tivo+ is not appealing, and we should have the ability to hide and record/download all the Tivo + channels. Tivo App is buggy. Sling TV, I hate it, and one requirement for me is local channels. Nope, I'm not going to do OTA. No integration with Youtube TV or Hulu Live TV. Both of these services are vastly superior to Sling TV. The only thing I like about Sling TV is NFL network. This was closest thing to a showstopper for me. The Good. It's snappy The video quality is so much better than my Apple TV 4k. Leave the Tivo App and go to Android TV UI and all is great. The mini peanut remote. Is flawed (I agree with all the other posts) but so much better than the Apple TV remote. So end of the day. Most of the time I'm using this as an Android TV device with what I feel is the best default remote for a streaming device. However I'll keep it, and eventually replace my other Apple TV's.... Life will be much better though when they offer integration into Youtube TV and Hulu live.