I'm starting to hate suggestions.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Adam1115, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. toddcscar

    toddcscar New Member

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    I for one would like an option to disable the tivo suggestions on the tuner that is showing live tv. I have digital cable and access to FM radio stations (with great clarity I might add: no static) and I frequently turn the tivo and tv on, change to the radio station and then turn off the tv and just list to NPR in the mornings. However, tivo suggestions kick in and change the channel.
     
  2. pdhenry

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    Just hit record and you'll get a few uninterrupted hours. Delete the "show" later.
     
  3. shane_pcs

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    I am tired of the "Just hit record comments". Since aparently absurd suggestions are allowed, why not just buy and additional TivoHD and stack it on top of the other one. Now enable suggestions on one, and disable them on the other. Only watch live tv on the one with disabled suggestions. That would also solve the problem, but wouldn't it just be easier for Tivo to correct the bug in thier software?

    I agree with some of the other posters. I shouldn't have to hit record every time I watch tv. I am a recently converted ReplayTV user and thus never used the previous software, I just thought the Tivo was poorly designed. Now that I know that it previously worked logically I hope they fix it.
     
  4. fallingwater

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    Some might say that TiVo is overdesigned. It attempts to pick up every stitch while offering a feature set way beyond DVR, and once in awhile drops a stitch.

    Just turn off Suggestions until TiVo corrects the problem. TiVo's got a good record about correcting arcane s/w glitches.
     
  5. rainwater

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    One of the issues with suggestions is that back to back recordings use different tuners instead of the inactive tuner. So this affects users whether they have suggestions on or not. It just manifests itself more when you have suggestions enabled.
     
  6. fallingwater

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    The problem transcends Suggestions, true. Suggestions just makes it worse.
     
  7. bryus

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    This bug has been ticking me off for months. I had a Phillips DSR704 DirecTV box for 3 1/2 years. I only got rid of it last summer because the 2nd satellite input died. In all that time I NEVER once had a live buffer dumped for a suggestion like this.

    I would watch two live shows at once. Watch one until I hit a commercial, switch to the other, repeat. Never a problem. It only warned me it needed a tuner when it was recently watched by me as indicated by activity.

    Now I have it dumping my buffer to START a suggestion. I always thought suggestions were supposed to be the lowest priority. First live TV, second scheduled recordings, third suggestions.

    It's really annoying to loose 15 minutes of the fourth quarter of a football game so it could record a show I didn't want to watch.

    Given that, I won't turn off suggestions because I use it as a sort of season pass list. I give three thumbs up to shows I like but don't watch regularly. This is for things like the news or sitcoms. It is easier than trying to create an elaborate season pass that creates conflicts.
     
  8. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Me too.

    WE KNOW how to hit record and record programs, it's not a helpful suggestion to tell us to record things.

    We're here to talk about the NEW BUG that prevents use of LIVE TV because both recordings and suggestions interfere with them.
     
  9. mattack

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    But repeating the same suggestion (no pun intended)... why aren't you just recording both of these?

    I *do* sometimes use live TV, and admittedly used it last night on two tuners at once -- mostly because I was in pretty much the only time I "seriously" use live TV -- when I'm very low on disk space. (I also buffer up some live TV of CNN before I plan to go to sleep to have some CNN to listen to.. but that sometimes is interrupted by channel changes, purposeful or accidental.. I know I'd record something if I *really* cared about it.)
     
  10. rjames

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    If you are using cable just run a spitter to the tv. You can watch live and record two. If your tv has a cable card you can get all the programs, if not most sets have a quam tuner and you can still get network hd. Watch one and record two, just switch imputs. Problem solved.
     
  11. cherry ghost

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    Problem not solved. Why are people having such a hard time understanding this?
     
  12. rjames

    rjames New Member

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    Seems to me it is solved unless you just want to whine.
     
  13. delgadobb

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    More than anything else, this is probably the one 'feature' I'd want changed or fixed on my TIVOs.

    So many times, I'll pause something interesting onto which I've stumbled on live TV - answer a phone call or the front door or go to the bathroom, come back a few minutes later & a suggestion is recording. How difficult can it be to sense that you must be watching live TV if you've hit the 'pause' button? This would not be difficult to program into the logic or intelligence of the TIVO software & in my mind it's entirely intuitive. Failing that, I'd love to be able to do something (key sequence?) to indicate 'temporarily suspend suggestions'.

    While I do appreciate the occasional recorded suggestion, for the most part I believe they're far too aggressive trying to fill my TIVO :) That's what I get for building three with almost 500 hours each, I guess ...
     
  14. pdhenry

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    +1

    Sometimes you just gotta find a workaround and be happy.
     
  15. rainwater

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    The bug will still be there. And unless you are planning on notifying every single user of TiVo about a workaround and spend millions of dollars doing it, even that solution isn't a viable one.

    This bug is one of the main reasons I am planning on switching my main TV to Moxi when the contract is up. The Moxi software isn't that great, but it at least works when you watch live tv.
     
  16. pdhenry

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    Not every single user is as injured as you claim to be.
     
  17. rainwater

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    Of course, but how do you know which ones are? That is the whole point. Most people on this forum are power users and despise live tv. However, thinking everyone uses their TiVo like the power users on this forum is not very smart.
     
  18. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I agree, some people for example have guests stay with them. Explaining to them that they have to hit record on any show they might want to watch, otherwise it will change channels and record a suggestion leaves them a bad taste of what a 'tivo' is.

    You should be able to watch live tv if you want to, even if some people think that you're stupid for doing so.
     
  19. drewj

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    Just because it doesn't affect your workflow doesn't mean it isn't a problem that should be addressed. It is a big frustration for many, I'm sure.

    Bottom line: The old behavior was better and their "update" broke the prior (correct) behavior.
     
  20. buckeye1010

    buckeye1010 Very Special Member

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    I've had suggestions turned off since almost the beginning. I know enough stuff of what I like to keep me busy for a long time :)
     

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