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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Cheaptoad, Dec 26, 2015.
I just can't spend $300 on New on atm. Any suggestions?
Lifetime Premiere two tuner would be the lowest item on my list.
Depends on what you want it for.
OTA without streaming concerns = Series 3, TiVo HD, Premiere
Analog cable only without streaming concerns = Series 2, Series 3, TiVo HD, Premiere
OTA & analog cable together without streaming concerns = Seires 3, TiVo HD, & Premiere
Analog & digital cable together without streaming concerns = Premiere
OTA & Digital cable together without streaming concerns = Premiere
digital cable without streaming concerns = Premiere or Premiere 4
OTA with streaming concerns = Roamio or Bolt
Digital cable with streaming concerns = Roamio, Roamio Plus/Pro, or Bolt
Digital Cable or OTA with UHD streaming concerns = Bolt
The Premiere & Premiere 4 have the same streaming apps as the Roamio line and they do work but I think most people would find the responsiveness unacceptable. So I do not recommend the Premiere/Premiere 4 for people who want to use their DVR for streaming (Netflix, etc.).
Also the Series 3 & TiVo HD work with digital cable that uses MPEG 2 - however many cable companies are converting from MPEG 2 to h.264 and the Series 3 & TiVo HD will not work with that type of cable broadcast so I can not recommend them for digital cable anymore.
For used units I would also recommend only buying ones with a lifetime subscription. Special Note anything older than Premiere (Series 1,2, 3 class units) can not longer be subbed (and all TiVos require a subscription to be able to use them). So for the Series 1, 2, & 3 class units, if they do not have lifetime subscription already you can not use them.
I'm really only looking for the basics. Record the shows I like. If I get more features then that, it's a plus. I'd love to keep it around $100.
I have digital cable and I have no plans on streaming Netflix, Youtube, etc...
Then you must look for a Series 3 TiVo with a lifetime sub. (As already mentioned Series 3 without lifetime is useless for anything except parts.)
The two choices are:
Model 648xxx (S3) or Model 652xxx (TiVo HD). You might get close to $100 on those on eBay although closer to $150 is more likely, including shipping.
There's a fair chance you will have to replace the hard drive ($60 - $200) or the power supply ($20 to $100) on a Series three within a year or two. The price ranges depend partly on how much DIY you contribute.
Go to eBay, lots of choice of various models. Maybe you only want to spend $100, but that's going to be an old unit with little drive space. For a newer unit you'll either have to pony up much more or pay a monthly subscription.
You don't mention who your cable provider is. That is important because Comcast is switching to MPEG4 which is not supported on the older Series 1-3 units.
If you want new, and can afford to pony up for the monthly rental, Weaknees sells a Premiere 4 for about $110. But then you will be paying the $15 monthly rental for the duration.
Check Craigslist for lifetimed units.
Series 3 or Series 4
Most people on there have an overly optimistic view of what theirs is worth but you might get lucky.
I have found that the series 4 TiVo's have weaker OTA tuners and that the series 3' are much stronger (more sensitive). Does anyone know if the Romeo's and /or Bolts are stronger or weaker than the series 4's?
In my experience, Roamio (series 5) has a better OTA tuner than Premiere (series 4) even with two more tuners.
II found a series 4, never used, for $40. No lifetime.
Does that sound good.
Btw, I don't have a land line.
Also, if I didn't get a tivo couldn't I just record shows to my computer?
I would look for something with lifetime service unless you are OK with the monthly costs.
That does not sound good. True you pay only $40 today, but you also have to pay $15 every month forever.
You don't need a land line, only internet service.
Yes, you can just record to your computer. I did it for many years. Works very well. But is more complicated to set up, use and maintain.
Do you have cable TV or just an antenna?
I have xfinity. But, I don't own it. I'm just renting this place.
OTA or cable? You can still get a new Roamio OTA for $50 if you don't mind a $15/mo service fee.
Not sure how that would work then. Can you get a cable card? That would be required whether you got a Tivo or used a PC. To use a PC, you'd need to buy a HomeRun Prime tuner (about $80 on sale, probably less if buying used), and have a Windows 7 or Vista PC you can connect to a TV and plenty of space of recordings.
If you can't get a cable card, then you'll have to do the dreaded video capture method, either to computer or standalone HDD/DVD recorder.
Have you considered a streaming service like Sling TV, Hulu or Amazon?
Maybe I can ask the owner to get a dvr and I'll pay the monthly fee. That may be the easiest
I have a premiere, that I would be willing to part with for 30 w/ shipping. You would have to pay for monthly service ( has no lifetime) and cable card rental from your cable co. PM If your interested.