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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by drober30, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    The first year is included in the cost of the Bolt. Lifetime then doesn't take effect until year 2 and thus would be years 2-5. So 5 years until it's free and clear (start of year 6) vs. just yearly.

    Obviously the $400 deal makes it a much more interesting math problem as you'd get about halfway thru year 4 and then it pays for itself.

    There is still the replacement issue though, if that matters to someone.

    And I agree there is a resale market for used Tivo's w/lifetime. But we honestly don't know what the market will be 4-5 years down the line or further if someone were to keep it longer. Very well may be it's still a viable option so another thing to think about, but also it could be Tivo (probably owned by some other company by then, but maybe not) won't allow reactivate with the lifetime on it. We just don't know. My fear is someone like Time Warner scooping up Tivo and then nullifying any resale value on the boxes.
     
  2. drober30

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    $400 for lifetime divided by $150 per year option = 2.6 years before break even point.

    So after 1st year free, it would take 2 years 7 months for it to start paying off.

    So buy lifetime for $400 and in 3 years 7 months I'm starting to save money.

    So 3 years 7 months seems like a long time to keep a technology/DVR but considering:

    The Bolt just came out.
    The Bolt is very fast.
    The Bolt has a cable card slot (this standard/form factor could change)
    The Bolt does 4K ( the resolution war has reached its peak, I don't need 8K)
    The Bolt has dynamic tuners so my TiVo minis only occupy its tuners when they are being used.
    The Bolt has 4 tuners (good enough for me)

    Who knows what could come out but I cut the cord so I'm really only after my local HD channels/Prime Time Shows.


    Now lifetime and replacement/repair brings up questions. If my unit breaks, TiVo wont fix it even if I pay for the repair? Does Weakness fix peoples TiVos?
     
  3. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

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    That's absolutely false.. why would you even think that?
    (Heck, there are, I believe *nationwide*, consumer protection laws that require repair/replacement services for X number of years..)

    and yes, if you do get a Tivo fixed "officially", if they have to replace it, the lifetime service WILL go to the new one.. But (verify the rest of this paragraph yourself) unless you have a third party "warranty" type service, OTHER replacement by places OTHER than Tivo will NOT necessarily transfer your subscription.

    Personally, I had an OLED S3 die at about the breakeven point, and I _still_ only choose lifetime. The "gamble" (without any extra warranty) is well worth it for me, since the most likely thing to go bad is the hard drive, and _WHILE THIS IS COMPLETELY UNSUPPORTED_, third party tools to replace/upgrade the hard drive are commonplace.

    If the monthly price were WAY WAY WAY lower (literally a couple of bucks per device), AND they would essentially (unless it was literally fried to a crisp) guarantee recovery of _existing_ recordings when moving to a different device, then I would choose monthly. But since that doesn't exist, I got lifetime on my Roamio Pro and all of my previous Tivos.
     
  4. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    He didn't make a statement he asked a question.
     
  5. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    TiVo's warranty is one year. For the first 90 days it is a complete warranty, 90 days to 1 year they charge $50 for a replacement. If you unit is replaced under warranty the All in/lifetime service is transferred to a the replacement unit. In the past after the 1 year warranty period TiVo has agreed to replace units that go bad and transfer the all in/lifetime service to the replacement unit for a fee. However there is no written policy so no idea what TiVo will do in the future. In the past TiVo has also sold one time use extended warranties, which would replace a defective unit once for a $50 fee and if it had all in/lifetime service transfer the all in/lifetime service to the replacement unit. No idea if they still sell extended warranties.

    In most cases when a unit goes bad outside the warranty period it is very likely either the hard drive or power supply, both are easy to replace on the Bolt.

    However other things go bad (tuners, HDMI port, etc.) and there isn't an easy way to get those fixed and pretty much require a replacement unit and there is no written policy what TiVo will charge for a replacement unit or that they will transfer the all in/service to the replacement unit when you are outside the warranty period.
     
  6. drober30

    drober30 Member

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    Thanks for all the relies! Just as it was years ago, this community is still great and helpful!

    Loving my Bolt! My TiVo mini works great!

    TiVo was always customer focused and supportive, TiVo was kind of a grass roots word of mouth start up and they loved their customers! Hoping nothing has changed!
     

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