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IFTTT Apps for Tivo

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Tony_T, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Well-Known Member

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    More of a native solution. It’s inferior in some ways though. It’s slower than KMTTG.

    I love what Kevin was able to build to enable auto skip though. He built a creative workaround by using what was available to him, which wasn’t much.
     
  2. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Yeah, one bonus for IFTTT is that its AutoSkip applet works as soon as the SkipMode data is available on the box.

    The KMTTG table building wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the need to take control of a TiVo box's UI to build the skip data. (Or has this changed?) An interesting possibility exists if KMTTG were to be able to integrate with IFTTT, if/when TiVo's IFTTT team adds a trigger indicating a completed recording. With a dedicated Mini assigned to KMTTG, a live KMTTG instance could be notified of the individual new recording and immediately queue it for skip data detection, without concern for interrupting any viewing session.

    Good news. Thanks for the info.
     
  3. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Active Member

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    Hasn't anyone else tried this in the past month?
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    The way SkipMode works REQUIRES the recording originate on your TiVo itself. TiVo generates closed captions hash data during the recording and then needs to use that hash data to determine when to skip when you are watching. Videos that were not recorded on your TiVo don't have this CC hash data and hence don't work with SkipMode.

    Even an original recording that works with SkipMode and then you transfer via TTG to your computer and then transfer back say with pyTivo, you will find will not work with SkipMode because it's missing the CC hash data.
     
  5. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Perhaps I'm reading that wrong. It sounds like you are saying that SM is local to a program/TiVo marriage. I frequently make a recording on one Roamio and copy it to a different Roamio. When the transfer is done, if it had SM it gets SM. Perhaps this is an IFTTT issue? If so, ignore my post. :)
     
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    MRV (TiVo--TiVo) transfers preserve the CC hash data (they actually didn't when SkipMode first came out, but a subsequent TiVo update fixed that). But TiVo To Go (TTG) and TiVo To Come back do not. And obviously content that never originated from a TiVo in the first place never had the hash data in the 1st place.
     
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  7. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Active Member

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    Thanks for the reply, but I wasn't referring to SkipMode. My question was about the IFTTT Trigger "Content from My Shows begins playing", which does not trigger when I play a video in My Shows that was originally transferred from my PC.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Oh, OK, don't know about that one. Maybe because it doesn't have a programId? If you transfer using pyTivo with a valid programId in the metadata does it work? The easy way to know if you have a valid programId is when you transfer to the TiVo you will get the artwork for it in TiVo's My Shows.
     
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  9. Lurker1

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    They probably do not have valid programIds. These are podcasts, web videos, and stuff that wouldn't ever be in the guide. Not sure why that would matter though. It is just supposed to trigger when I start playing something.
     
  10. Mikeguy

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    But it also would trigger under My Shows, right? E.g. when you're going through the list and the show graphic and info. appears in the right-hand panel.

    It would be nice if there would be a default graphic and system for unknown shows. Instead, the TiVo system seems to sometimes grab some other, misc./unrelated (?) graphics to display and info. to post. The box, sadly, often does not play well with user-created content, in my experience, and such content, in some circumstances (e.g. creating metadata files for the content?) possibly can seem to corrupt the box's show database (speculation here, based on experiences/posts here).
     
  11. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    A guess as to why: The box doesn't directly connect to ifttt, it sends a message to the TiVo mothership that programId abcxyz123 has started playing (or that a skip segment for abcxzy123 has been detected, a onepass created, etc.). The mothership then connects to ifttt and sends the title and/or other data fields ifttt uses in applets. If the programId doesn't exist in cloud database, then mothership doesn't trigger ifttt. Just a guess...it could also all be happening locally on the box (e.g. no valid programId still equals no ifttt trigger because it doesn't exist in the TiVo/Rovi db).

    Test for a valid programId transfer, as moyekj suggested, and see if that gets a trigger or not. Then we'll know they're required if we want ifttt actions.
     
  12. Lurker1

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    I put in a valid programId, and all of my metadata was overridden from the database, title description etc. But, still no IFTTT trigger when played.
     
  13. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    :( Darn, was hoping that'd work at least.
     
  14. BarryDGordon

    BarryDGordon New Member

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    Trying to link IFTTT to Tivo but every time I try to turn on app it say response code error.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  15. JACKASTOR

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    Yuppers Auto Skip mode is flakey. And not the good pastry kinda Flakey.
     
  16. mtnagel

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    IFTTT Autoskip skipped the last or second last segment on NBC Nightly News last night. Is the explanation that it's flakey?
     
  17. drweb

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    It seems to be broken again.. I have a VOX Bolt, and the IFTTT skip has worked well in the past. However, last few days, it's not working at all.
    I logged into IFTTT, checked the settings, turned the applet off, then on, nothing changed. It seems no longer to automatically skip.

    What still works though is the SKIP button, or the D button, on the VOX TiVo Bolt.
    Anyone have any idea what's wrong?
     
  18. CharlesH

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    I am seeing the same (non) behavior. It sometimes skips (maybe one time out of 10), so I don't know if I should hit the the D button (and risk a skip of the next program segment if the automatic skip just comes in late), or wait and be stuck watching the commercials. :confused: The activity log on the IFTTT web site shows that occasionally it gets the skip event, so I know the app is configured and enabled properly. Either the TiVo is not sending the event, or it is getting lost in the Internet somewhere and not getting to the IFTTT server.
     
  19. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Shoop mentioned over on the FB group that it’s a known issue. IIRC, all TiVo triggers are having issues.
     
  20. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Sat., Nov. 10th:
    All - there is an issue that we are looking into with ifttt. As far as I can tell all triggers from TiVo are non functional not just Autoskip. I suspect this is correlated to the SW update which is currently rolling out. We are looking into the root cause and will let everyone know when the problems are resolved. Sorry for the troubles.

    Sat., Nov. 10th:
    Yes, the new SW roll has created the issue with AutoSkip. Not just Autoskip but all actions (play from my shows, parental control pin challenge, out of standby) have high failures.
    edit: also...
    Sat. Nov. 10th:
    there is an issue that we are looking into with ifttt. As far as I can tell all triggers from TiVo are non functional. We are looking into the root cause and will let everyone know when the problems are resolved. Please understand that the IFTTT feature is beta and all support for the feature is within the Facebook group.
    edit2 (Nov13): From Dylan Wondra on FB...
    Mon., Nov. 12th:
    this is a known issue we are investigating and I believe I have found the root cause.

    edit3 (Nov14): update from David Shoop of FB...
    Tue., Nov 13th:

    OK - We have found the root cause of the IFTTT issues. It seems that we cracked an egg in the latest client sw release. I'm now looking at how quickly I can get that resolved for user with the update and users who are going to receive the new update. Right now this effects only trigger events from TiVo, but does not effect TiVo actions. Given that AutoSkip requires a TiVo trigger this has a +95% failure rate. I will provide an update as soon as I have a firm bead on when the fix will be in play.

    So this should only be affecting those receiving the latest TE4 Fall Build, per Shoop, here:

    21.8.3.RC2... in the pipeline.

    edit4 (Nov 16): See >this post< for an issue update
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2018
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