If you could add a feature to TIVO what would it be?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by occraig, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    My issue is with NPL blanking which makes MRV only one way. From the series 2's to the HD only, not the other way. So to answer your question, I can't transfer anything from the HD.
     
  2. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I wonder how Slysoft (makers of AnyDVD) gets away with selling their software. Maybe 'cause they're based in Europe?
     
  3. JWThiers

    JWThiers Smartypants

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    If you read your linked article closely you will find that
    Subtle difference but has a huge difference in meaning. And since that is in a US court it only applies to US companies.
     
  4. TexasGrillChef

    TexasGrillChef New Member

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    Yep, Exactly. They are based in europe. Just like the other competing programs that can rip Blu-rays and HD-DVD's.

    There are a few cases still pending on their way to the supreme court which are still fighting the DMCA rule. But as we know the outcome of those cases won't happen for a few more years. If we are lucky/unlucky depending on your POV.

    TGC

    P.S. See my next post regarding LEGAL "managed copy" feature coming to Blu-ray discs after December 2009.
     
  5. TexasGrillChef

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    One thing.. is (Go look on engadget.com/engadgethd.com) is a new thing finanly coming to frutation is "Managed Copy" on Blu-ray.

    With managed copy, you will be able to legally and easily make a COPY of your HD Blu-ray disc/movie/show. This will allow you to use it on your TiVo, or DLNA server/client, or even play it on another HD device.

    Managed Copy, (they say) will be required on every Blu-ray disc sold after December 6th, 2009. However, they can charge a small fee for the managed copy. Managed copy must allow at least 1 copy to be made, & depending on the Studio's desire, could allow more than one managed copy.

    New Software, Hardware &/or Firmware will have to be released to support the capability of managed copy on Blu-rays. As of yet there haven't been any product anouncements as to any hardware &/or software that will support the feature of managed copy with Blu-rays. These anouncements will probably be coming in January's CES event.

    TGC

    P.S. As Morac claimed that DMCA etc... would create issues on having any media that you could play on the TiVo to even have TiVo needing DTS or DTS-HD... Managed Copy which is coming to Blu-ray soon would change that. Thus having a TiVo that could support DTS &/or DTS-HD WOULD in fact be a benifit & feature that the TiVo could definately use!
     
  6. JWThiers

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    That link didn't work. But Either this one or this one is probably what you meant. Interesting.
     
  7. morac

    morac Cat God TCF Club

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    The TiVo software would have to support the encryption used for managed copy files since they will have DRM themselves (WindowsMedia DRM). The TiVo software can handle WindowsMedia DRM since that's what Amazon and Netflix use, so it would be possible, at least in theory, to play managed copy files. I expect it won't work though since the TiVo software probably isn't expecting DRM in user streamed or copied videos.
     
  8. Videodrome

    Videodrome tivo - please wait..

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    I would want 3 tuners , and an extender, that can watch Live tv. oh wait thats Moxi's new product.
     
  9. TexasGrillChef

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    They wouldn't, if the TiVo supported DLNA, and you put your "Managed Copy" on a DLNA server.

    Some "Managed Copies" won't have any DRM. So they can play on iPods and other video players that won't recognize DRM. As well as Managed copy is suppose to have the capability to burn to a regular DVD so that you can play it in your Vehicles entertainment system as well.

    The Jury is still out though, on what will actually be allowed on/with "Managed Copy" & what that cost may or may not be. Alot depends on the hardware, software & firmware that will be released. Alot of it is speculation until January 2010 CES.

    TGC
     
  11. TexasGrillChef

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    Why just 3? Why not go for the full sha-bang and ask for 4! :) Although that would probably require Broadcom's new DVR chip. Which no one as of yet has said they will use in their DVR's. Guess we will have to wait till Jan 2010 CES for that.

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  12. NuShrike

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    CC text for all Netflix movies, and Netflix that does not hard-crash the TiVo. Hulu too, probably.
     
  13. JWThiers

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    If they can keep the cost down that will be excellent.
     
  14. gear

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    built in slingbox
     
  15. Scopeman

    Scopeman 2 x Basic Roamio

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    User definable folder names and manual sorting
     
  16. TexasGrillChef

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    CC text for Netflix, is really up to netflix and not so much a feature for TiVo. CC text on Netflix isn't available on any hardware device you choose. Roku, XBox, PS/3, Blu-ray players, Play-on, Computers, or even the up & coming Wii.

    CC text isn't even available from VuDu, Amazon, or any of the other streaming/download services either.

    Sadly though, I think it's going to be a while, maybe even an act of congress to get CC on those services. It took a federal law from congress just to get it on our TV broadcasts. DVD's/Blu-rays still don't have 100% compliance on CC/Subtitles.

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  17. TexasGrillChef

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    I have to agree with you there.

    Many people here in this thread have made wonderfull, suggestions and ideas about new features and upgrades to our TiVo's.

    Yet, the one requirement I believe that we all have that is first & foremost is that whatever feature they do add, that it not increase the price of the TiVo by an unreasonable amount.

    One thing to keep in mind. A feature improvement is either going to be software, firmware or hardware in origin. Software feature improvements for the most part can be done on everyones S3/HD units. (Yes, there are exceptions to that rule). A Hardware improvement though would only come to NEW TiVo units and would not benifit any of our current units. Firmware improvements could go either way.

    I love software improvements, feature upgrades. Because in general that doesn't "cost" us anything "directly". TiVo doesn't charge us everytime they want to make a software upgrade on our TiVo's. Which is very nice.

    The thing about DLNA certification, or even compliance is that I don't know if that would require any hardware changes to a TiVo, or if it could easily be done with new software on our current systems. I would like to believe that it would only require software & that it is something that could easily work on our existing S3/HD units. Not something that would only be available on the next TiVo S4.

    TGC
     
  18. swinca

    swinca Menace to society

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    The ability to work with satellite. I know Tivo doesn't control that. I'm just saying.
     
  19. NuShrike

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    I would think this willfully violates the Disability Act ... Oh well, it's good we got something still.
     
  20. TexasGrillChef

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    I wish it was as easy as that. But having put the "ADA" to a test with reasons of my own. The word that gets most people out of having to fully comply with the "ADA" is the part of the clause that says:

    "Reasonble accomadations"

    ie.... a 300 year old building that doesn't have an elevator in it, and would cost $100,000 to install one is considered "unreasonable accomadations" if an employer happened to rent out the 10th floor. Thus anyone who isn't able to make it to the 10th floor has no legal recourse under the ADA.

    The argument TV Broadcasters & production companies used to fight the proposed law to get CC required on all TV, including cable was that the cost amount was to great & thus would make their "show" unprofitable. Congress passed the law anyways. TV & production companies haven't gone out of business. Although if you ever notice, most CC costs are being covered by non-profit companies or sponsored by other major corporations but not through direct advirtising.

    I have written my congressman and senators about having closed captioning required for VOD, PPV, Downloaded movies and streaming movie services. Most are wanting to take the wait n see approach though. Guess not enough people are writing to our congress to complain.

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