I Work for Virgin Media, Can I Help?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Nero2, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. Jan 15, 2010 #81 of 132
    swanny

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    And another beta volunteer here:

    Samsung V+ box in GU14 area. Just retired my series 1 TiVo after 8 years of brilliant service.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2010 #82 of 132
    m1ke

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    Im a long time Tivo owner and am in a Virgin cable area - i'd definitely act as a beta tester given the chance (and happily jump ship from my current sky sub :p to get there too)

    But, despite the constant offers I get in the post from Virgin, I dont yet have cable. I'm not going to sign up just yet otherwise i fear it'll be like $ky (where the existing in contract customers arent eligable for any 'new' offers) theyre only interested in the *new* customers.

    So assume if i already had a cable sub and V+ box they wont be interested in upgrading me to a newer Tivo enabled one, but as a new subscriber/customer there'd a much better chance....?
     
  3. Feb 11, 2010 #83 of 132
    cwaring

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    Rubbish! Seriously? Why would they exclude the majority of their user-based from having a new TivoV+? Doesn't make any sense :confused:
     
  4. Feb 11, 2010 #84 of 132
    m1ke

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    simply because looking at any sky offer it always says "applies to new customers only"

    so, similarly, why would Virgin want to spend more money on supplying new/updated kit to their existing customers for no payback? (effectively making a loss on the old kit, as theyre recovering the cost of supplying that 'old' box through your subscription)

    ....to them it makes a lot of sense (ie makes more money)
     
  5. Feb 11, 2010 #85 of 132
    OzSat

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    I don't think they will upgrade customers from V+ to the new TiVo service - unless they get a fee or subscription increase in return.
     
  6. Feb 11, 2010 #86 of 132
    cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    No-one mentioned "no payback" :) There's a price rise coming in April, so that'll help towards it ;)
     
  7. Feb 12, 2010 #87 of 132
    OzSat

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    My guess of the TiVo will cost £10pm extra and will have an installation charged applied to.
     
  8. Feb 12, 2010 #88 of 132
    mikerr

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    Not from the way the announcement read to me.

    TiVo will be the "exclusive supplier of software" to both PVR and non-PVR boxes.

    I really doubt VM is going to have a 2 separate PVRs,
    the VM TiVo will be replacing V+ and will be a way of VM beating SkyHD for features.

    Also from the announcement it seems the TiVo software will be rolled out at the same time as the move to IP infrastructure,
    which will probably be new boxes anyway.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2010 #89 of 132
    mrtickle

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    I agree with all of that, mikerr. It all points to 100% of the existing Virgin PVR and non-PVR boxes being replaced with TiVos, or, the new "non-recording cable STBs with the TiVo interface" (a world first?). Logically this would be at the same time that customer's street is swapped over to the new IP infrastructure mentioned in the Cisco press release - a huge upgrade rollout which will take months.

    Perhaps some parts of the country which are later down the order in the upgrade programme will still have to supply unlucky new customers with V+ boxes for a temporary period, long after their friends in other areas already have TiVos!
     
  10. Feb 12, 2010 #90 of 132
    britcub

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    I thought they could add TiVo software to existing V+ boxes via a software update?
     
  11. Feb 12, 2010 #91 of 132
    mikerr

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    They could do an OTA upgrade (and we know the same hardware that V+ is based on has TiVo software in the US),
    but it all depends on how accurate the wording of that announcement is.

    As it stands it pretty much reads that TiVo software is for ALL boxes on the new IP infrastructure they are moving to.
    Whether that needs new boxes in the home, or just software updates I don't know.
     
  12. Feb 17, 2010 #92 of 132
    smokie

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    Oh Nero, I'm a bit late to this! Ex Telecential/NTL customer. now with 3 x V+ and a TiVo would love to be on any beta. I really need to get rid of one of the boxes under the telly. Not least because I have a regular STB feeding the TiVo next to the V+ and I haven;t found a way to control one without messing up the other.


    btw I have a friend who I've been trying to help upgrade the HD in his V+. Anyone know where there is discussion on this, as two forums we've tried want to argue more about the legality than the practicality of it (I suspect it's because they haven't got a scooby, whereas I know from past experiences there are some really good tech people here)
     
  13. Feb 17, 2010 #93 of 132
    cwaring

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    They have a very good point, of course :mad:
     
  14. Feb 17, 2010 #94 of 132
    mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    V+ upgrade is pretty easy, as the box itself will format any drive you put in.
    Their software is locked into displaying 80 hours total, so the freespace gauge is wrong,
    but other than that everything works without issue.

    Older V+ boxes are IDE, Samsung ones are SATA.

    Of course you can't then legally connect it back up to VM cable...
     
  15. Feb 17, 2010 #95 of 132
    RichardJH

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    It is a shame that all the VM boxes respond to the same remote. I have a standard Pace VM box for my Tivo and a V+ box in the same AV stack and have used a stick on I/R emitter on the Pace box to allow Tivo to control it and then completely covered the front window of the Pace box with black gaffer tape. No more problems.

    As for your other query re V+ box look here http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=664153

    I am not saying it is legal but it appears that it can be done.
     
  16. Feb 17, 2010 #96 of 132
    cwaring

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    Of course, you can't even legally open it up in the first place ;)
     
  17. Feb 17, 2010 #97 of 132
    smokie

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    Thanks Carl, as I mentioned in my post I already know all that. I was looking for help on the stuff I don't know about... :)

    And thanks also to Richard - I'd seen that thread but forgotten about it. Although we already tried most of what's there. But I will give it another go.

    Oh, and thanks to Mike too for his input...:)
     
  18. Feb 18, 2010 #98 of 132
    tankstage

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    I have shrouded the front of my TiVo controlled box with silver foil. I found that even with various types of tape, the IR managed to get through.

    Tank
     
  19. Feb 18, 2010 #99 of 132
    BrianHughes

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    And it's protected from CIA mind control too. :p
     
  20. smokie

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    Mine are within feet of each other inside a useless "media cabinet", and I need to be able to control both from the same place, although you've given me inspiration to think of a better way of doing things 90% of the time...
     

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