I hate, hate, HATE the updated Netflix app!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by escrge, Aug 22, 2012.

  1. Jan 8, 2013 #141 of 227
    Fist of Death

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    I finally gave up and now have a Roku XS 2 (or is it 2 XS) sitting on top of my TiVo Premiere XL4, both connected to my receiver via HDMI. TiVo is used for TV, Roku for all other streaming stuff. I hated to drop the $59 for the extra box (on sale right before Christmas at Costco), but the improvement is night and day better - especially the Netflix app. Too bad TiVo couldn't get streaming as dialed-in as Roku seems to...
     
  2. Jan 8, 2013 #142 of 227
    Dan203

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    I bought a new SmartTV a few weeks ago and started using it for all my streaming stuff. Not only is the Netflix app significantly faster but it also has HBOGo and VUDU, both of which I use pretty regularly. Not having to switch over to my PS3 or XBox to use these services is very nice. I'd prefer it if my TiVo were the "one box" it was purposed to be, but having these apps built into the TV is a close second. (nothing extra to switch on or wait to boot up)

    Dan
     
  3. Jan 8, 2013 #143 of 227
    morac

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    Netflix revealed Super HD and 3D streaming today. TiVo isn't compatible according to the Engadget article. It doesn't matter for most people though since only ISP's that peer with Netflix's CND will get this and that's only Cablevision and Google Fiber.
     
  4. Jan 8, 2013 #144 of 227
    MDMarshall

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    I'm one of the few still watching an old Tube TV, so I'm used to the pixelization when watching Netflix.

    But my last two movies were different. Video goes black for about .25 seconds, about once a minute when it's bad. And sound would skip 3-4 times, also about once a minute, but not at the same time as the video troubles.

    The skipping sound was the worst part, would make dialogue illegible about 4 times per movie.

    The first time, I was hoping it was the movie. Now I'm hoping it's a bad server somewhere and will get better soon.

    Did something change in the last ~2 weeks? I'm about ready to go back to Roku.....

    Thanks, all!

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  5. Jan 9, 2013 #145 of 227
    rainwater

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    It's really not clear which hardware supports Super HD. Netflix does mention smart tvs and blu ray players that do 1080p will also support this. Since the TiVo app supports 1080p, it isn't out of the question that the TiVo app already does as well. Netflix needs to clarify this. Of course it hardly matters at the moment for most people.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2013 #146 of 227
    mikeyts

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    Someone in a thread at AVS Forum reported getting it with Frontier FiOS. He didn't say where he was but Frontier Communications only operates in Indiana, Oregon, SC and Washington.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2013 #147 of 227
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    The DSL Reports article is bad. I have Armstrong Cable(small company) and I have support for it
     
  8. HockeyFan

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    Is frontier fios possibly getting redbox?
    Would fios not use the New cnd because
    it doesn't want Netflix compete with redbox?

    Why is cablevision doing this? Don't they
    have caps and throttling for Netflix?
    were they loosing too many customers and
    decide to change?

    So, now Netflix has same bit rates as Vudu?

    Sorry, didn't realize I had so many questions
    on one post.:eek:
     
  9. compnurd

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    Cablevision has never had caps or throttling
     
  10. mikeyts

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    I found out what the Super HD bit rates are. Someone on a small ISP in San Francisco (Sonic.Net) posted a snap of "Example Short 23.976" running in the Windows 8 app with the Stream Manager showing on AVS Forum, here. You can see the full resolution version of that shot by right-clicking it and dragging it into the new tab control on your browser and hitting F11 to blow it up fullscreen. In addition to the 2350-, 3000- (both 720p) and 3850 Kbps (1080p) encodes you can get without Super HD, there are also 4300- and 5800 Kbps 1080p encodes. That 5800 Kbps is a 50% increase over 3850 Kbps--should be nice.
     
  11. HockeyFan

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    Right. Comcast has 250gb cap.
    Always mix the two up.
    Thought all non fios had caps and Netflix
    throttling. Co workers with cablevision
    were always complaining about Netflix issues.
    Must have been something else.
     
  12. aaronwt

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    Vudu 3bar HDX averages around 9Mb/s.
     
  13. morac

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    Comcast's cap is currently suspended for most users while Comcast decides which of 2 new cap schemes they want to go with. Only users in the two trial towns still have a cap.
     
  14. HockeyFan

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    Either way, neither company would be
    getting my business .
    did have cablevision once. Never again!
     
  15. compnurd

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    Cablevision is one of the best ISP's in the country... right behind fios in terms of speed and price
     
  16. apw2607

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    The netflix client on the tivo is actually one of the best clients there is. Why ?

    Because its the only client that I know that's able to play 1080p/24 streams with DD+ bitstream audio.

    My ISP is in netflix superhd club. My Sony bdp-s790 netflixs client shows the superhd logo against certain titles. The tivo client doesn't

    But, when the tivo switches to 1080p/24 it looks identical to the Sony x-high or superhd stream with the tivo getting the bonus 24 frames per second output.

    So I prefer tivo over Sony.

    Where tivo falls over is its ability to navigate the titles. It is slower than the Sony.
     
  17. mikeyts

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    The 2012 Panasonics 3D BDPs can do that and have a full implementation of that UI, with skip-forward/back-by-3 in the browser, people search and the "Just for Kids" alternative UI. I assume that the 2013 Panasonic 3D BDPs also have those capabilities.
    My guess is that it's getting the Super HD encodes whether it knows how to put the tag on the title's description or not. You can test it with "Example Short 23.976".
     
  18. HockeyFan

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    Yes I also prefer TiVo over the ps3.
    The TiVo interface is quite slow.
    Sometimes I use the ps3 to build my queue,
    then go back to the TiVo to play the videos.

    I'm thinking of getting a blu ray player for
    my Pioneer plasma tv, Sony s390. No 3d.
    Does the Sony blue ray players allow you to
    search for actors names in Netflix?
    Ps3 does, and I really like this feature.
     
  19. apw2607

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    The panasonic implementation of 24p is a kluge and you have to turn it on each time you use it.

    When I tested the bdt220 the 24p feature was horrible with netflix. I don't know what it was doing but didn't look anything like 24p from a BD in terms of look.

    The tivo netflix. 24p output (and amazon vod for that matter) look great
     
  20. apw2607

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    Sure.
     

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