Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by felickz, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. felickz

    felickz New Member

    Jan 12, 2006


    Hi, Long time (2yr) lurker, first time poster!!!

    Reading Tons of posts on the r15 just made me hate it more after 2 hrs of use!

    I had a 30 Min convo with a DTV salesman about the future uprages with the r15, he was promising some crazy things, like On Demand capabilities, opening up the USB and RF remote output on the next upgrade, a sort of "home networking" with the basis of the Windows Media Center...

    Does anyone have a link to all these new upgrades they are promising??
    Sales guy said "EARLY 2006" .....

    He told me skyreport DOTTcom leaks any news before he hears it through DTV, but its hard to search old archives (takes forever).

    And is it possible to upgrade to two buffers on live tv with a firmware upgrade or will we never see it... To the people that dont see why we miss it so much.. i used to watch 2 shows in the time it took to watch one LIVE.. as soon as a commercial i would pause, switch to other tuner get to a comercial PAUSE tuner2, then FF thru all commercials I MISS IT !!!

    Well just sayin hello, ranting, informing, and requesting info... I hope once TIVO is gone this forum stays around!!! (if not where are you all heading, besides DTV official forums!?)

    My setup just bought 5LNB Dish, H20, R15, 2xd10, 5x8 MultiSwitch
  2. Tracy RainH2o

    Tracy RainH2o Photo Man

    Nov 17, 2005
    The buffer issue is the biggest gripe I read about on the R15. Many of us have opted to buy a new Hughes DVR80 from valuelectronics.com or buy one used.

    Two buffers and fully hackable to enable the USB ports and multi room viewing. On demand would be great but I am not holding my breath.
  3. Rax

    Rax New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    In a box.
    Y'know, I have NEVER used both live buffers at once. LIVE?! :p
  4. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    Most of the talk about the R15 is over at www.dbsforums.com

    RF remote support is expected around March/April (The hardware is there, the software component (which can be seen in the H20) has not been added to the R15 yet)

    On Demand is on it's way with offerings from NBC and others

    USB connectivity (for DirecTV2GO) is expected in about 3-6 months when the portable movie players are released, for direct connectivity between the two

    Microsoft and DirecTV announced a partnership to allow communication to the Microsoft Media Center edition PCs... that is expected in the 6-9 month time frame.

    Dual Live Buffers... "may" be comming, I have heard two different angles on it. But the hardware (IMHO) is technically ready to do it... Since it can record two live programs, and you can go between them (via the MyVod), there is no reason why two live buffers couldn't be possible.
  5. vstone

    vstone Active Member

    May 11, 2002


    You won't see this until Vista, which is alledgedly due by late 2006 (ie Christmas marketing season). It's very possible that it won't appear until 2007.
  6. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    We certainly won't see the Tuner until Vista is out... but there is still the possibilities for communication with the current MCE2005 editions...

    Again... Until the day it is turned on, or a specific date is announced... any date is rumor.
  7. tbeckner

    tbeckner TiVo Fan

    Oct 26, 2001
    Bend, OR, USA

    I believe more detail would be helpful.

    Not true OnDemand just extended TiVo showcase like functionality (or the failed Starz OnDemand), and likely only PPV content, like NBC shows and movies. And then there will only be 60 hours of total programming available at anyone time. The poor man’s VOD and the best that DirecTV will likely ever be able to offer.

    But then again, it should be modeled after or an exact copy of ITV2Go (NDS), which is just for Windows CE devices, and there shouldn’t be anything there for MCE. But then again how many people have $2G MCE machines sitting around waiting for this functionality? And the expensive DirecTV only devices are in IMHO a true loser.

    Now that is the most optimistic timeframe that I have ever seen. It is likely more than a year out, and could be only after Vista has been released for a few months, and based upon missed code complete version reported in the last week, Vista could be delayed until 2007.

    I can't disagree with you on this one, but time will tell if DirecTV and their developers screwed up bigtime on this one. But even if they can offer it, it might take some time before it is offered, like 3 to 9 months.
  8. Rob Dawn

    Rob Dawn Member

    Aug 16, 2002
    Another great of use of the 2 Live Buffers is when watching NFL games. I routinely use this to catch every play of 2 games that are on at the same time.

    It's much easier to pause a game and press the Live TV button to switch to the other one and unpause it rather than having to continually go back and forth through the Now PLaying List.

    Here's hoping they add this functionality before I switch from the HR10-250 to the HR20-250!!

  9. SeattleCarl

    SeattleCarl New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    With the R15, it is possible to emulate the dual live buffer by recording both shows. You only have to go through the now playing (My VOD) twice. Set both programs to record. Go to my vod and play the first recording. Go to my vod and play the second recording. You can now use the "last" button to toggle back and forth between them. You can pause, switch channels, etc. - everything you can do with dual buffers. Not as convenient, but usable until (if) the R15 gets dual buffers.

  10. kenmac999

    kenmac999 New Member

    Dec 12, 2004
  11. db54

    db54 New Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    North Carolina
  12. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

    Oct 14, 2004
    Dual buffers saved me from missing a show last night. The newest episode of Atlantis was not recorded, because of bad guide data. One tuner was busy recording a suggestion, and the other was still on Sci Fi because it had recorded SG-1 earlier. When I noticed that the episode was not recording, I switched to that tuner and hit record, and got the entire show because it was all in the buffer.
  13. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff New Member

    Jan 30, 2004
    FYI next weeks Atlantis has wonked out guide data as well. Check and make sure it's going to be recorded. It's not just a DTiVo thing because I was talking to a friend last night and his SA TiVo did the same thing.
  14. jrinck

    jrinck Certified Neurotic

    Nov 23, 2004
    Do the R15s still have the problem that it switches too early to a channel after the "The recorder needs to change the channel at x o'clock" message?

    If so, that's sad.
  15. SeattleCarl

    SeattleCarl New Member

    Nov 10, 2005
    The R15 still has all of it's problems, except caller ID no longer locks it up (fixed by the first "upgrade").
    D* is working on an upgrade, but they are at least trying to make sure they fix the problems, and not the symptoms, which makes cranking out an update take longer.
    After the next upgrade comes (whenever that may be), we'll have a much better idea of what to really expect out of the R15, and out of the D* move away from TiVO.
  16. Steve1212

    Steve1212 New Member

    Dec 1, 2004
    Chicago, IL
    Here's 2 solutions for the R15.

    1. Take it back for a full refund
    2. Buy an R10 from Weaknees or buy an DVR80 from Value Electronics.

    That's what we did and couldn't be happier. Just bought one for my brother and his DTV acct. R15 needs major work and help.
  17. rick31621

    rick31621 New Member

    Jun 20, 2004
    So Calif
  18. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    Gosh... Tough crowd...

    Where were all of you when TiVo was at software version 2.0......

    Yikes... TiVo wouldn't have made it....
  19. john-duncan-yoyo

    john-duncan-yoyo New Member

    Oct 13, 2004
    NoVa near DC
    Well it's not like anyone will own the thing and feel allegiance to it. The R!% soon will be just another damned cable box. ;) I have pride of ownership in my TiVO's.
  20. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001

    I have alegance to no "technology box"... If I have learned one thing over the last 20 years of spending my money on things...

    By the time I can afford them... something new is just around the corner...

    I am just a junky...

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