Hydra "Wish List"

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  1. Furmaniac

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    Now you can search for shows In the entire TiVo database using the Vox remote.
     
  2. JoeKustra

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    I think I saw posted that the search extends beyond the TiVo database since TiVo sends voice commands to a third party. If it uses only the TiVo database half the results would be wrong. :(
     
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  3. krkaufman

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    Is this strictly for voice searches via the VOX Remote (enabled via Hydra) or does it apply to any searches from a Hydra box?
     
  4. JoeKustra

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    Just a voice search. Examples:
    "Find Movie War" returns the Jet Li movie that is on A&E 4/29 but not yet "Searchable" with my TiVo. Bad data
    "Find Movie Fury" returns the Brad Pitt movie. Amazon is not selected as a provider on my Hydra TiVo. All voice commands were done on my Mini VOX.

    There's a post somewhere that has the voice support information.
     
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  5. clay.autery

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    Oh heck yeah!!!!

    Been trying to set a One Pass for "Penn & Teller: Fool Us" on the replacement Bolt (Lifetime... warranty), but the search feature does NOT have the "&" key, so you can't find it.
    Only way I did it before was to repeatedly go through the guide until it appeared there.

    VOX found it immediately!!!
     
  6. Furmaniac

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    Yes ... Dish Network shows 3 hours and FiOS shows two and a half hours. You would think that TiVo should have every positive feature from every company that there is!
     
  7. Furmaniac

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    I think you have to type in 'penn teller' ... ampersands are ignored.
    I meant that the Vox search will display movies and TV shows that are not currently streaming or on television ... and make a bookmark for them.
    The type-in search only looks at current programming. That's the main thing about Hydra that I do like ... that the Vox remote is programmed better than the key-in search.
     
  8. clay.autery

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    I had no luck at all with the "in menu" search trying to find that show.
    The VOX voice search displayed the search on the screen with the ampersand, and located the show in under 1/2 a second.
    I was able to make a One Pass for it IN SPITE OF the fact that no showing is "upcoming" in the current guide.
     
  9. sbillard

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    Shows recorded by suggestions do not show the show title in the short description. If you don't recognize the series from the description you have to go to the show itself to see what series it belongs to. How hard would it be to include the series title in the short exerpt?
     
  10. Furmaniac

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    Does TIVO staff review all of these suggestions or are we just venting?
    Is TiVo Ted the only one who might be reading these?
    Does Tivo staff even care what we say here?
    Do they tell us in advance what they're adding to the next release? They tell me that the next release is April 30th 2018, but I don't know what's in it. Will it be fixes ... or enhancements ... and regardless, will it be things that THEY want to do ...or will it be things that WE want tjem to do?
    I came from Dish Network to Spectrum and because Dish has such a powerful DVR, I decided to go with Tivo. Main reason was dish's Dish Pass, their version of Wishlists.
    But I am very disappointed that Dish does so many other things better than Tivo:
    1) When selecting a show from the Guide, in addition to choosing new and or reruns, you can choose if you want it weekly. Let's say you want to record Family Feud on GSN. They're all reruns but you don't want to record every day's show, you just want to record it on Tuesdays. Dish lets you do that; on TiVo you need to make a manual recording to do that, and I consider that a workaround.
    2) For programs selected from the Guide, or manual recordings or Dish Pass (Wishlist) recordings, you can put the program into a self generated Group Folder or create a new group folder, so that all game shows, specials, favorite actresses, etc. can be organized by groups.
    3) The Dish Guide does very well showing 3 hours of programming per screen, not 2. Why can't TiVo do that?

    It seems to me that TiVo is very behind the standard DVRs of other companies. It shines for Wishlists, Quick Play and streaming integration. I got it only for the wishlists but it pales in comparison to Dish Network's DVRs.
     
  11. Furmaniac

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    Do you mean there is no 'Resume' indication as there is on Netflix, Prime video, & Dish Network? If I stop watching a show in the middle and come back later, will it start that show from the beginning or will it resume or give me an option?
    Also I would like to know how Wishlists folders appear on the My Shows list. They used to be in a folder with a star ... now I see there are no folders!
    There also used to be a section on My Shows called 'going away soon' witch alerted one of streamed programs that might be removed from the streaming service. Is that still there?
     
  12. Furmaniac

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    That's what I've been telling people and TiVo doesn't even document this important function of the Vox remote. I asked them on the phone if they are going to expand the typing guide to also do the global search ... and they claimed they are looking into doingg that!
     
  13. Furmaniac

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    Regardless who is getting the information, it works. With VOX, I asked for an obscure movie from the 1950s and an obscure TV show from the 1950s
    Although they are not currently playing or streaming, they showed up in TiVo and allowed me to make a bookmark in one case and a onepass in the other.
     
  14. Furmaniac

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    Only works with the Vox remote using the microphone.
     
  15. JoeKustra

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    I think the voice search function works like Wikipedia. While very comprehensive, when I search for House of Cards it asks me if I want to make a 1P. Sweet except I don't have a sub to Netflix. I do have Prime. It's about 50% accurate.

    I think it's just venting.
     
  16. Furmaniac

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    It's working correctly. It doesn't care if the program is currently playing or streaming. It doesn't care if you have a particular streaming service. It will make a onepass so that if it ever appears on TV or any streaming service that you have in the future, you will be alerted in the My Shows list.
     
  17. tim1724

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    This is not the official TiVo forum. (The official forum is here but it sucks.) They may or may not be reading this. They're certainly under no obligation to do so.

    I think he's the only TiVo employee known to be reading TCF on a somewhat regular basis. (There have been others at various times in the past.)

    Probably not. Again, this isn't their forum.

    Not usually.
     
  18. scottchez

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    Would love to see Netflix on a channel say in the 4001 range similar to how Dish Network does it.
    They have a Netflix channel.
    Then you wont have to go to the apps, just type in 4001 and it loads.
    Better yet add channels for all the apps AND all the stream content in the sub app like you can see for the Weather Nation channel or all those local news streams.
     

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