Hydra... Bring back Live Guide!!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by JACKASTOR, Oct 31, 2017.

Bring Back Live Guide Option in Hydra!!

  1. Bring it back, and make it an Optional Choice please.

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  2. Prefere the Grid Guide To all Else.

    20.5%
  3. Undecided, I have trouble knowing whats good or not.

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  1. Nov 4, 2017 #101 of 527
    ej42137

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    I should give credit where credit is due; although you remain as curmudgeonly as always, your missives no longer read like ransom notes! Well done!
     
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  2. Nov 5, 2017 #102 of 527
    mattyro7878

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    33000 posts and youre not clear on what the live guide is? really?
     
  3. Nov 5, 2017 #103 of 527
    chiguy50

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    Is it the same as the love guide?:confused:

    (Asking for my wife.;))

     
  4. Nov 5, 2017 #104 of 527
    HerronScott

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    The default is the live guide though so if the majority of people are using the grid guide then they purposefully made that selection which would justify their decision to go there with Hydra. (We still use the live guide but we've had TiVo's since 2000 and we rarely use the guide.)

    Scott
     
  5. Nov 5, 2017 #105 of 527
    TonyD79

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    Those of you who want the live guide need to tell tivo that you aren’t transitioning because of it. (That and transfers seem to be the real showstoppers for some.) I’d bet tivo wants people to move and a block that isn’t can leverage that.
     
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  6. Nov 5, 2017 #106 of 527
    PSU_Sudzi

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    I think TiVo Ted indicated the Live Guide was a frequent request during beta testing so it seems they are aware of it. When I was messaging him about testing the gen3 rollback I let him know I liked Hydra a lot but the Live Guide is primarily why I wanted to go back. Will see if they decide to implement a version of it in Hydra or not over time.
     
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  7. Nov 5, 2017 #107 of 527
    tenthplanet

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    Tony speaks the truth...Those of you who want the live guide need to tell tivo. Why we may sympathize with you, we don't have the power to grant your request, Good luck :)
     
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  8. Nov 5, 2017 #108 of 527
    JACKASTOR

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    ONTARIO,...
    As far as Things go, Tivo Employees read this forum and yes our thoughts count quite a lot. If you want to start a Nay Sayer Thread please do it elsewhere other than here.
     
  9. Nov 5, 2017 #109 of 527
    TonyD79

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    That was looking less and less true until Ted reappeared for hydra. It looked like we were abandoned.

    ETA: Oh. And I meant it that everyone who will not upgrade say why HERE as well as anywhere else they can.
     
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  10. Nov 6, 2017 #110 of 527
    JACKASTOR

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    Fair enough.
     
  11. Nov 6, 2017 #111 of 527
    sharkster

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    I don't understand why some folks are so invested in insulting those of us who prefer Live Guide. What's the biggie? To continue having the choice, IMO, is a good thing. It was already there. Why take it away?

    I wouldn't think negatively of anybody who likes the other one best. But to remove one choice is just a drag for those who prefer that choice. If they were taking away the other choice, the people who prefer that choice would not be pleased either. It's just a matter of being able to see things from the POV of others. :) No harm, no foul.
     
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  12. Nov 7, 2017 #112 of 527
    BobCamp1

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    They didn't take it away, they'd have to program it into Hydra. If they ran out of time and/or they knew not many people used it, then the grid guide would take top priority.

    Tivo needs Hydra stable for the holiday shopping season, they're hopefully putting resources into fixing bugs than adding a live guide. Maybe after things calm down they'll add the live guide to Hydra.

    The ironic part is that Hydra is supposed to replace some of the functionality of both the grid and live guides. That should mean we wouldn't be using the guide very much anyway, which in turn should mean there shouldn't be a need to support two different versions of it.
     
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  13. Nov 7, 2017 #113 of 527
    Kivo

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    To me, the Live Guide is one of the things that makes TiVo TiVo. Start taking away things like this and TiVo becomes just another cable DVR.

    Sad.
     
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  14. Nov 7, 2017 #114 of 527
    JACKASTOR

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    I disagree.
     
  15. Nov 7, 2017 #115 of 527
    BobCamp1

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    If you like the old guide, then don't upgrade to Hydra. It sounds like you wouldn't use the new features anyway.

    I haven't upgraded yet, because my Tivo is a backup DVR and I don't really need a fancy GUI for it. I forgot the Bolt even had a live guide option until this thread.
     
  16. Nov 7, 2017 #116 of 527
    schatham

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    I don't believe the story that live guide was removed because more people preferred grid guide. Live guide is Tivo. The Rovi Tivo is all about the mso and this new Hydra is for them.

    This is windows 8 re-do. Take away useful features (Tiles instead of lists, looks familiar in Hydra) and take more steps to get thing done. Hydra is a resource hog.
     
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  17. Nov 7, 2017 #117 of 527
    JACKASTOR

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    Obviously you don't understand the the term Disagree and you make a false assumption that I don't like Hydra. How many more false assumptions will you make? I am sure that there will be many more. And for someone to say well they removed the Live Guide for stability issues for the upcoming Christmas season well that's laughable. So go on and make your blanket False assumptions we need the laughter any way.


    Hail Hydra

    Jack
     
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  18. Nov 7, 2017 #118 of 527
    JACKASTOR

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    One of the things that made TiVo Better IMO was the live guide. And they gave us the choice of the standard Grid Guide and Live Guide. Having Choices is what really makes things better. There are definitely somethings that were worth saving from the standard interface, Live Guide was one of them. The layout on the Hydra could be less clunky but is that due to ignorance of the new setup or just bad programing I don't know. Either way change is upon us and we will either adapt or not. At the end of day I am very much pleased with most of the Hydra interface.
     
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  19. Nov 7, 2017 #119 of 527
    TonyD79

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    Totally agree. If hydra is a success or not will depend on how they adjust, refine and enhance going forward.

    There should be an update soon for some of the obvious bugs and decisions that didn’t go over well. But I expect more of them to be things like tile sizes and text on them. I’d assume Live guide and others depend on if they were already working on them as they seem more complex to implement/port.
     
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  20. Nov 7, 2017 #120 of 527
    Mikeguy

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    I'd like to upgrade to Hydra, and experience the new experience. But unfortunately, there are some absence/removal-of-feature impediments, including the absence of the Live Guide. It's unfortunate that this had to occur, and that these "toggles" to the upgrade process exist.
     
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