Hydra... Bring back Live Guide!!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by JACKASTOR, Oct 31, 2017.

Bring Back Live Guide Option in Hydra!!

  1. Bring it back, and make it an Optional Choice please.

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  2. Prefere the Grid Guide To all Else.

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  3. Undecided, I have trouble knowing whats good or not.

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  1. RoamioJeff

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

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    Tiles are the Fisher Price style of the recent user interface fad. They are big blobby pictographs that nobody asked for developed by hipster programmers who call it "modern". Bleh. We've seen this visual virus deployed in Windows, on phones, and now TiVo. Jeezus, it's a figgin' DVR. All you need is a functional grid to lay out the content in an efficient and practical manner. We don't need pictographs.

    The "style" is condescending towards people in assuming that users are too lazy to read an actual text label or want a slim and uncluttered user interface.

    It's almost as if programmers are bored and rather than work on new useful features they want to muck around with a tried-and-true user interface for the childish satisfaction of "look what I made!"

    Nobody asked for this. This is one reason I will not upgrade to Hydra.
     
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  2. michaelfb68

    michaelfb68 New Member

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    Said it before, and I will say it again --- Live Guide is the sole reason I kept Tivo. When I used the Comcast guide on the X1 box I had, I wanted to hang myself. Then Tivo went and copied it.

    When people would ask me why I used Tivo instead of the cable-issued DVRs, I'd show them the Live Guide. "Ooohhhhhh", they'd say. Comcast and Verizon installers said "Wow, that is great!" The differences were immediately apparent, not to mention the ease of recording shows, accessing shows, system speed, and more. The user experience was night and day.

    I just setup my 5th Mini. Once again, I had to run through 3 setup routines to get Live Guide, as it automatically upgrades the Mini without asking, then offers a downgrade. It's hard to believe the programmers at Tivo are so dumb that they can't incorporate a basic decision structure that checks the host OS then installs the compatible OS on the Mini by default in one shot.

    #baffling
     
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  3. exdishguy

    exdishguy Active Member

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    While I too love Live Guide, I totally get that Tivo wants us to move to TE4. They have limited resources and have to put all that they have into TE4 as that is the only code base they will support moving forward. They probably cannot and will not support the TE3 code base beyond what we have today (as far as new features and very occasional bug fixes).

    That said, my issue is the TE4 UX design. It's hard to believe that the UX first-gen TE4 design team did much (if anything) to incorporate customer/user feedback when they initially designed the Hydra interface.

    The good news is that the company seems to have some new blood that are making a concerted effort to listen to their customers (e.g. the Facebook Innovation group). So hopefully we'll start to see some of the beloved features of TE3 pulled into the TE4 code stream soon enough. Fingers crossed.
     
  4. JoeKustra

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    I'm betting TE3 is frozen and there will be no changes. But if it helps, I'll cross my fingers also.
     
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  5. exdishguy

    exdishguy Active Member

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    Oh, I completely agree. I thought I said as much - TE3 is available to us but only on a "as-is" basis. They won't be updating it anymore at all IMO.

    My fingers are crossed that TE4 will soon feature Live Guide and other features currently only found in TE3.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Don't hold your breath. When they first released TE3 only a handful of screens were in HD, the rest dumped you back to the old UI. It took them like 8 years to finish it releasing 1-2 new screens with each update like once or twice a year.
     
  7. JACKASTOR

    JACKASTOR Active Member

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    No no you must rant on. These are legit comments. And we should be able to choose the look period if we so want. Plus the live guide was TiVo’s very own hallmark feature which won a lot of us over for that very reason.
     
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  8. tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

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    He remembers.
     
  9. Test

    Test Well-Known Member

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    Is is there a post here (or anywhere) that lists the differences between the new os and old? Like the new one missing the live guide? like a pros and cons
     
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    foghorn2

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    Live Guide is working in Hydra as we speak.
     
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    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    NOTE the date: April 1st
     
  12. Apr 1, 2019 #472 of 527
    RoamioJeff

    RoamioJeff Unregistered User

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    Yes, and they've fixed transfers to PC and gotten rid of the goofy tiles in the UI!

    Upgrading to Hydra now!
     
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  13. Apr 1, 2019 #473 of 527
    JACKASTOR

    JACKASTOR Active Member

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    ONTARIO,...
    All Hail Hydra
     
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    tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

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    You got it :D:eek: pic4233915.jpg
     
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  15. Apr 1, 2019 #475 of 527
    tenthplanet

    tenthplanet Well-Known Member

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    Wait until Tivo's migration to Android TV down the line. Get those torches ready to be lit. :D
     
  16. Apr 2, 2019 #476 of 527
    wtherrell

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    Huntersville...
    And don't forget the pitchforks!
     
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    JACKASTOR

    JACKASTOR Active Member

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    Don’t forget it’s coming to Apple TV as well!
     
  18. Apr 2, 2019 #478 of 527
    schatham

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    Remember when Tivo was looking for users who never used a Tivo to do testing. Maybe that's how they got their input. They knew Tivo users would hate it.
     
  19. Apr 3, 2019 #479 of 527
    JACKASTOR

    JACKASTOR Active Member

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    More likely they used the test monkeys instead to do the testing.
     
  20. Apr 3, 2019 #480 of 527
    Mikeguy

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    You think? "Test monkeys" who need to be paid rather then "free" users?
     

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