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Hydra... Bring back Live Guide!!!!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by JACKASTOR, Oct 31, 2017.

Bring Back Live Guide Option in Hydra!!

  1. Bring it back, and make it an Optional Choice please.

    76.4%
  2. Prefere the Grid Guide To all Else.

    21.3%
  3. Undecided, I have trouble knowing whats good or not.

    2.2%
  1. Furmaniac

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    Yes, I just tried it and you are right, but there is an issue with it .
    When you go to the next page, it skips the first program on that page. Every time you press the fast-forward key and go to the next page, one program is skipped.
    I will write a suggestion at TiVo.Com for them to fix that and to put the guide in ascending order.
     
  2. Furmaniac

    Furmaniac Active Member

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    I sent this suggestion to the TiVo suggestion box:

    On the live TV screen - up Arrow - live guide:

    1) you can press an arrow key to go ahead or back one program at a time, or you can press FF or REW to move one page at a time. There is a bug here though. When you go to the next page, it skips the first program on that page. Every time you press the fast-forward key and go to the next page, one program is skipped.

    2) Please put the live guide in ascending order. It is currently in descending order which is inconsistent with the regular guide and is difficult to follow when you're used to an ascending list.

    3) as long as you have the right/left arrow moving one program and the FF/REW moving one page, why not have the advance/back skip keys move one day ahead or back.

    4) there are about 4 tiles that show on a page but only the highlighted tile shows the time of the show. It would be nice if you would show the time of each show on the page without highlighting it.
     
  3. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    I thought that at first but realized it was not showing me an overlap. The first show on the left after a FF was the first one just off the screen. I wonder if that differs at times.
     
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  4. Furmaniac

    Furmaniac Active Member

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    I don't see that on my TV screen.
    I was at first wondering if that's what was happening, but no.
    I tested it several times and on my box (Roamio Pro), a program is always skipped and not seen when you press the FF key. No overlap.
     
  5. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve played some more. It seems to matter what channel and what tiles. Maybe tile size? I’m not sure. But it worked fine on EPIX. But not FS1. Maybe the narrow tiles work better (movies)? I can’t figure out a pattern.

    And I didn’t say overlap. What i see often is that the first show just off the screen to the right becomes the first on the left after FF. But not always.
     
  6. tvmaster2

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    is there a good link somewhere which visually (preferably moving pictures) compares the old TiVo guide system with the new, what’s different, what’s been added and what’s been taken away? Anything I’ve seen is just bad promo material.
     
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  7. Jul 2, 2018 #347 of 388
    ADG

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    Great question. If there is such a link, I'd also love to see it.
     
  8. Jul 2, 2018 #348 of 388
    JoeKustra

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  9. Jul 2, 2018 #349 of 388
    TonyD79

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    Specifically for the new “live guide” the first picture on page 18.
     
  10. Jul 3, 2018 #350 of 388
    tvmaster2

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    yeah, this is what I was afraid of - people who like to look at big, shiny picture boxes instead of reading words. Our Cox Countour Guide looks like this, and it's useless to me
     
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  11. Jul 5, 2018 #351 of 388
    samccfl99

    samccfl99 I Am Sometimes Vocal

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    It really amazes me that some people do not know what The Live Guide is. It is the opposite of the amazingly disgusting Grid Guide that was implemented when cable first came to NW Ft Laud in 1972/3, I think. You know, with the box that had 12 buttons and a 3 way switch giving us an amazing 36 channels...LOLOLOL. Of course that was the ridiculous Rolling Grid Guide!!!
     
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  12. Jul 5, 2018 #352 of 388
    mdavej

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    So being able to see the next 12 hours of programming on a single channel is more useful than seeing the next 3 hours of programming on 10 channels? I believe you're in a very small minority of viewers. The rest of us know that after prime time, you'll get infomercials and crap for the next 12 hours. Don't need a guide for that.
     
  13. Jul 5, 2018 #353 of 388
    tvmaster2

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    Sorry, couldn’t disagree more, especially when one channel (HBO, Starz, ESPN) can make up so much of your recorded content. It’s so fast to check things one day, five days, one week, two weeks out with Live Guide. And easy on the eyes. At the very least, TiVo’s new owners, the ones who supply guide data, should have realized this was something 70% of owners are quite tied to. How much extra ram would they have to put in a Bolt to let you choose TV guide options?
    Mindnumbingly dopey as far as customer satisfaction goes. Not to mention, many people bought and paid up to $700 for a box BECAUSE of things like Live Guide.
     
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  14. Jul 5, 2018 #354 of 388
    humbb

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    Yes. (Actually scrolling with Channel Up/Down much more than 12 hours.)
     
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  15. Jul 5, 2018 #355 of 388
    mdavej

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    I guess that's why I never used live guide. I have no reason to recording ANYTHING on premiums because ALL of it is available on demand. I never record any sports either. I find it much more convenient to start the grid at 8 PM and jump 12 hrs at a time, seeing several channels at a time.
     
  16. Jul 5, 2018 #356 of 388
    tvmaster2

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    that's why you like it. As far as sports, I record nearly everything now, so I can watch the game in 75 minutes instead of four hours. Each to their own. Same with Prime Time, local channel programming. I watch late night for breakfast. Still don't understand why Tivo wants to make us choose. Of course, for now, we can keep the old system.....for now
     
  17. Jul 5, 2018 #357 of 388
    Mikeguy

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    A guess: none?
     
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  18. Jul 5, 2018 #358 of 388
    mdavej

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    If I did record premiums, browsing for movies to record, even using live guide, would take forever. There are 7 HBOs alone, probably just as many Starz, all of which have a lot of overlap and repeats. Browsing in the streaming app is much, much quicker and easier.

    If I watched sports, I'd probably chase play like you as I do many other live events.

    Hydra does have some version of live guide in the mini guide. It's a row of thumbnails that goes out a few hours further than the grid that you can page through with the ffwd/rew buttons.
     
  19. Jul 5, 2018 #359 of 388
    TonyD79

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    Don’t try. You can actually see more movies in a movie pack like HBO in the grid guide. No numbers will ever convince the big fans of the live guide. They always talk like there is only one channel they ever want to look at.
     
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  20. Jul 6, 2018 #360 of 388
    samccfl99

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    If this was directed to me, first I suggest you reply correctly with the quote.

    2nd, Look at the Poll. Over 75% don't seem to really understand why Tivo, Inc would do such a STUPID thing as get rid of the Live Guide.

    As far as your comments about On Demand, who really wants to use that and not be able to skip thru commercials? I got a 6 tuner Roamio Pro and I record everything. The only time I have to reluctantly go to On Demand is when there is a screwup in the Fabulous Guide Data or some disaster, lets say maybe if "someone" will break into Primetime at 9 pm this Mon and it would need a manual time extension....grrrrr (I already adjusted for the Bachelorette...LOL).

    Also regarding On Demand, Tivo, Inc never addressed the Comcast Interface problem where it does not recognize 5 min skips (would not work for commercial TV anyway!).

    Oops, small rant...:rolleyes::D
     
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