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Hydra 21.7.2.RC14 (released Jan 31 2018)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by CloudAtlas, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. Mar 4, 2018 #101 of 186
    sbillard

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    The first point is something that really needs addressing. Not only are there way too many clicks to do common things, often the number of clicks are increased by things like not staying in the folder when there are multiple shows and you delete the one just viewed. [This is not consistent. Sometimes it stays in the folder, sometimes it reverts to the list but has the folder selected, and sometimes (for some inexplicable reason) it reverts to the list but has some other folder selected. Very frustrating.]

    The second point is one I have seen as well. I watched a show that was recording when I started watching. The recording finished before I finished watching. But when I stopped watching (back button) it showed that show was still recording. As per JoeFloyd I had to back out then come back into the folder to delete the show.
     
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  2. Mar 5, 2018 #102 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    Just wondering if it's just me (again). In my recently deleted recordings folder, the programs are sorted with the oldest on top. Just me?
     
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  3. Mar 5, 2018 #103 of 186
    rfc19061

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    I usually like new, and I don't mind the new 'look', but it seems this was rolled out without much, if any testing. Even before beta, it should be gone over inhouse.
     
  4. Mar 5, 2018 #104 of 186
    mrizzo80

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    I'm seeing reverse chronological order based on when I deleted the recording.
     
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  5. Mar 5, 2018 #105 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    Weird. I expect the top of the list to be the most recent, not the oldest.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2018 #106 of 186
    mrizzo80

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    Any chance the date shown in that list is throwing you off? I think that's the recording date, not the date you deleted the program.

    I watched and deleted last week's The Detour and then a January episode of Life in Pieces over the weekend. I show the following for my top 2 entries:
    • Life In Pieces (1//11)
    • The Detour (2/27)
     
  7. Mar 5, 2018 #107 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    It's possible that, since they are manual recordings, that it's confused. I have two non-hydra Roamio boxes also. The Hydra is in the order opposite from my other two boxes. But let's say it's the recording date. Still not the same as my other boxes. Also, I deleted all five programs at the same time. Not a big problem. Yet.

    Your examples are a good. They would be reversed in a non-Hydra box. As for the deletion date, perhaps you are looking at History/Recording Activity?
     
  8. Mar 5, 2018 #108 of 186
    CloudAtlas

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    Realize that this is Hydra 1.0 and like any 1.0 piece of software is missing functionality and contains obvious usability bugs. But it also was written to run on multiple platforms including iOS and Android unlike the old UI. And unlike the old UI wasn’t written for Adobe Flash!
     
  9. Mar 7, 2018 #109 of 186
    rdbauer111

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  10. Mar 7, 2018 #110 of 186
    rdbauer111

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    Tivo_Ted. Now that Tivo has really rolled out RC14 Hydra, when will Tivo start addressing issues/bugs. Many of us have posted issues with the Mini's that go unaddressed. Can someone please test new versions of software on the Mini? It is very frustrating when a new release comes out and still has all the same issue people have been screaming about for a year. Do you have any timeframe for the next release or a list of bugs fixes the next release should have?
     
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  11. Mar 8, 2018 #111 of 186
    sbillard

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    "The first point is something that really needs addressing. Not only are there way too many clicks to do common things, often the number of clicks are increased by things like not staying in the folder when there are multiple shows and you delete the one just viewed. [This is not consistent. Sometimes it stays in the folder, sometimes it reverts to the list but has the folder selected, and sometimes (for some inexplicable reason) it reverts to the list but has some other folder selected. Very frustrating.]"

    I now have a theory on the issue of not returning to the folder of the show you were watching. It seems to correlate with when new shows are being recorded. So the theory is this. The software "remembers" the where you are by position (from the top) in the list when you enter the folder. So if a new recording starts that position will now be some other show. Of course the software cannot find the next episode in the list [in the wrong folder] so it just highlights the folder newly at the original position.
     
  12. DeltaOne

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    I have a Roamio on RC14 and for the last 2 or 3 days I've been seeing an issue where I can not change the channel.

    But what I really think is happening is that the Roamio's CPU is very busy with some background task, possibly involving a network connection back to TiVo HQ. And after the background task is over, maybe two minutes later, all the buffered keypresses play out in rapid succession. And I have a hunch this can happen either at the top or bottom of the hour...meaning maybe the Roamio is busy checking to see if it should be recording something.

    Another new development is a problem when jumping from tuner to tuner. Using the right-arrow, one of the tuner icons is an empty white box and can not be selected. Using the diagnostics menu I can tell what channel the tuner is on, and I can enter that channel's number and go to it...but the white empty box icon remains. Only fix I've found is to reboot.

    Dealing with these and other RC14 issues is really getting old. I don't want to roll back to pre-Hydra for several reasons, but these bugs are really frustrating. I keep thinking that Hydra did not improve the TiVo experience in any way...it's simply different.
     
  13. aaronwt

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    If that were the case then it wouldn't happen if there aren't any new recordings. But I've seen it behave correctly when new recordings start, and I've seen behave incorrectly when nothing new starts being recorded.
     
  14. mrizzo80

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    Nice little bug caused by (I assume) Daylight Saving Time. (It's 9pm on the east coast and 2am in GMT time.)

    The bottom bar keeps popping up. I tried a UI reboot and it didn't help. Maybe it will stop at 10pm.
     
  15. RickNY

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    Also seeing this issue and posted another reply in the help forum. The bottom bar popping up is very annoying. I also tried a reboot and forced net connection but didn’t help.
     
  16. Paw Paw

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    Same issue here and I tried the same reboot without fixing the issue
     
  17. compnurd

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    @TiVo_Ted This is annoying as hell right now. Someone really screwed up.
     
  18. RickNY

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    I found a workaround for the pop up bar for now. Set up a manual recording for what we’re watching right now and play back from My Shows.
     
  19. DeltaOne

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    We had been watching a movie on our Apple TV and finished around 9:45 pm EST. Back on the TiVo, I noticed the bottom banner popping up and down about every 6 or 8 seconds. Annoying as hell.

    Also, when I would bring up the guide it would say "no data available" for the channel I was on and many others. But the up and down banner had the show data. Weird.

    I wanted to reboot, but a show was recording and would end at 10 PM EST. So I waited...and at 10 PM EST the up and down banner stopped and all returned to normal. Or at least as normal as Hydra gets these days...
     
  20. tim_m

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    Has anyone else noticed on Hydra even after you have canceled a one pass for whatever reason every once in awhile on the Tivo home page at the bottom it still listed as your show?
     

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