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Hydra 21.7.2.RC14 (released Jan 31 2018)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by CloudAtlas, Jan 31, 2018.

  1. Feb 24, 2018 #81 of 186
    samccfl99

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    Hey, I have W7 Pro!!! LOL. On my desktop PC (yes, this is my main pc). A fairly fast one with a 24" screen and a real keyboard and decent speakers!!!

    I really hate W10. Old time everything IT here. You can't even control updates!!! Ok, ok, so it is nice to talk to it, just like it would be nice if I could talk to my Gen3 Roamio Pro...:mad:;):D

    What else is there to talk about in here? No word about anything. I am curious as to what Ted meant by some new mods (did he say Jan? I said March...maybe) in Gen4 + 3. Guess they are still tied up in fixing bugs. Maybe they are working on Live Guide and Push...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D
     
  2. Feb 24, 2018 #82 of 186
    ourdoc

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    Windows 10 caused me to go full Apple mobile. Don’t even turn on my Alienware desktop but rarely.
     
  3. Feb 24, 2018 #83 of 186
    aaronwt

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    HECK no. Win10 is much, much better. I updated everything to windows 10 as soon as it was available. At work we are still on Win7 and we are finally moving on to WIn10 later this year.

    I guess I kinda feel the same way about Hydra. No way would I ever want to go back to using the HDUI.
     
  4. Feb 24, 2018 #84 of 186
    rdbauer111

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    They are PowerShell
     
  5. Feb 25, 2018 #85 of 186
    Noelmel

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    No none of the SPS codes are working. I think I remember reading they removed them from Hydra. Hopefully they bring them back I NEED my clock lol
     
  6. Feb 26, 2018 #86 of 186
    samccfl99

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    As usual...total opposites...on everything...;):D

    But to each his own. At 62, sometimes it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks...even if he has been working in IT since 1974! o_O:eek::D
     
  7. Feb 26, 2018 #87 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    This is weird but has happened twice. I have a manual recording set for everyday. It usually works fine. But twice now it has made two duplicate recordings. I also find I have two or three tuners (not four) tuned to this channel. I know it's not the usual use, but just want to post it in case it happens to someone else. The Roamio OTA spends most of its time in Standby. RC14 and a Mini slave.
     
  8. Feb 26, 2018 #88 of 186
    NYHeel

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    Hydra isn't a disaster like some make it out to be but after using it for a few months now I can comfortably say that it's simply not as good as the older HDUI. There are components of it that I like better but overall it just doesn't feel particularly intuitive (lack of left and right buttons is still annoying) and I'm still not nearly as comfortable with the interface as I was with the older one.

    Now I liked the HDUI back when they switched from the old SDUI to the HD one. I didn't really complain about it and I appreciated all of the extra program series information that the HDUI provided. But this UI is still messy and a little disjointed. I'm still not completely comfortable with the my shows list. It seems to take me much longer to find a show. I really don't like that they removed the date for the latest entry in the my shows list. That used to really help me find things when I was scrolling down looking for the show I wanted. That's just one example.

    With that said, I do like that TiVo seems to be working on their products and looking to innovate.
     
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  9. Feb 26, 2018 #89 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    Strange. I thought you would love Hydra. Because they changed the DD decoding, there is zero audio/video delay when going into or out of TiVo Central (Home) or any other menu. Just hit Live TV and you out of there. Instantly. :cool:
     
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  10. Feb 26, 2018 #89 of 186
    Diana Collins

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    I resemble that remark! Although, I've only been in IT since 1978. But I am still in the business of building user friendly UIs.

    Hydra follows the current trend of highly visual and graphic driven UIs. It was released when it was because it was at a MVP state and they needed something to support the new VOX hardware to get sales this past Christmas.

    Regarding SPS codes, TiVo never officially documented or supported them, so I find it bizarre to complain that an undocumented and unsupported "feature" was removed. None of the codes were documented by TiVo, they were documented and promulgated by users.
     
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  11. Feb 27, 2018 #90 of 186
    samccfl99

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    I know, but let's face it Joe. If you did not buy that R-OTA, you would not have seen the Hydra light of day until I do. Maybe by Xmas. No Live Guide, No Hydra. Not even for the no audio cutout...;)o_O:D
     
  12. Feb 27, 2018 #91 of 186
    samccfl99

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    LOL.

    Tivo is/was supposed to be unique. Now they are just a sellout for $$$. They joined the club. SAD.

    So where has Ted been and what have these people been doing with Hydra already? It's almost March! Now that is Really Sad...

    Also, I really do not understand what you are talking about when you talk about this topic in RED (nor do I really want to)...o_O:D
     
  13. Feb 27, 2018 #92 of 186
    compnurd

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    I have been trying to follow this thread. Has the last channel issue on the minis been fixed yet?
     
  14. Feb 27, 2018 #93 of 186
    JoeKustra

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    I was using Hydra a week after it was first released. I have a spare basic Roamio. I added service for a month and put its TSN in the web site. After 29 days of testing, I killed the service. I still have the old Roamio in a box. I like my toys.
     
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  15. Feb 27, 2018 #94 of 186
    wtherrell

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    Some of the new tricks aren't worth a sh*t.
     
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  16. Feb 27, 2018 #95 of 186
    Diana Collins

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    MVP = Minimum Valuable Product (does it do the basics in the spec?)

    Yes, TiVo is being run like any other business. Being "special" or "different" hadn't been working out so well for them. They weren't making money on anything but their licenses to other DVR makers. You should be glad they are interested in making money from the DVR business...if they don't it won't last very long.
     
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  17. Feb 28, 2018 #96 of 186
    compnurd

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    Checking on this again

    Has the last channel issue on the minis been fixed yet
     
  18. Mar 2, 2018 #97 of 186
    Kevinh1

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    No, I just got off the phone with TiVo tech support and they say that "Last" channel is not a feature of the TiVo mini, and if the last channel works on the TiVo bolt that is the bug and we as customer are not guaranteed the feature of the Last channel button working at all and if it does we are lucky. The fun part is they shipped me a replacement Mini when I called in the first time to fix this issue that is now not an issues and I have to go through the hassle of shipping the mini back and setting up my new mini.
     
  19. Mar 3, 2018 #98 of 186
    compnurd

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    That wasn’t what I was talking about. It was the mini when coming out of standby was defaulting to channel 2 and not the last channel it was on
     
  20. Mar 4, 2018 #99 of 186
    aaronwt

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    It defaults to the lowest channel on your list. It my case it is 1xx. Which is C-Span. But if I deleted those from list then it would be 4xx.

    The C-Span channels are the only cable SD channels I have programmed into my list. Any others are from OTA stations which are in the 400's on FIOS.
     
  21. Mar 4, 2018 #100 of 186
    JoeFloyd

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    Notes against RC14

    • Tivo Mini : live view showed wrong channel until channel changed (one occurrence)
    • Tivo Mini and Roamio : Slow response to pause/FF/Play under various circumstances (constant)
    • Tivo Roamio : Unexpected reboots during prime time viewing (at least twice)
    • Tivo Roamio : Access to QuickMode takes at least two click of play to show the select option for QuickMode
    • Tivo Mini and Roamio : Way too many key clicks to reach most used features. It is NEVER a good idea to make UI changes which decrease usability
    • Tivo Mini and Roamio : UI chances which require relearning common tasks and do not improve the primary function should be avoided (form over function is fashion not technology)
    • Tivo Roamio : Reached the end of a program which was actively recording. The program showed that it was still recording and I could not delete it. I had to go back to My Show and select the program again to have the option to delete it.
    Overall I'm trying to keep an open mind about the UI changes, but the systemic changes to UI behavior is more annoying than innovative. Tivo UI has changed slowly over time because it was best in class and put the primary function of the device front and center. The changes I'm seeing with hydra are not focused on the viewing experience and seem more like an exercise in chasing UI design trends.
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2018
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