Hunted - Season 1 - Full Season Thread *spoilers*

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  1. Jan 29, 2017 #21 of 106
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    I get that they want to create the illusion of actually having access to bank info, call records, mail, security cameras, etc. But it would nice if they had the actual rules and procedures buried on the website somewhere, for those of us who are curious, and to show that it's all above board.
     
  2. Jan 29, 2017 #22 of 106
    DouglasPHill

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    Yes would love to see the rules. For instance it looks like they can't prep in advance nor have money of their own. A big help to the chasers.
     
  3. Jan 30, 2017 #23 of 106
    fmowry

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    Take out first $100. Go to new location and accomplice. Give them card. Go to next location. New accomplice takes out $100, Fedex next day cash and card to new location. Get cash, give card to new accomplice go to new location, repeat 3 times. Investigators get hit on ATM withdrawal, by the time they find accomplice, cash and card is already next-day air to new location. Then you have all the cash in the first 5-6 days. Then it's easier to stay off the grid. Or do the same randomly over 28 days.
     
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  4. Jan 30, 2017 #24 of 106
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    The downside is that you're tied to locations where you have known accomplices.

    What I like about this show is that it gets you thinking... what would I do? And then it's also fun to roll eyes at the idiots (taking money out at the bus terminal??!?!) and to cheer for the smarter contestants (the car rental sign-on was brilliant!).

    My take on strategy would be to not use any help from friends/family but to strictly go alone and use strangers to help when possible. I'd take out the $100 immediately and then get on some transportation (not adjacent to the ATM!!!) and head in a random direction. I think I could live on the streets for 28 days if the prize were $250k.
     
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  5. Jan 30, 2017 #25 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    A) I'm willing to bet that the rules wouldn't allow this, because if the team (and their camera crew) is not at the location where the money is being withdrawn from the ATM, the show wouldn't be able to get footage of the accomplice withdrawing the money (unless they get the accomplice to cooperate in a re-enactment); and (2) once the investigators catch up to the accomplice, they'll interrogate the accomplice and might be able to get the location of where the package was sent and be waiting there for it to be picked up; and (iii) a FedEx package costs about $20, so they'd be spending $20 to get $100 which doesn't seem very efficient.

    It would be better to simply take out the money and then try to move as quickly and as far from the ATM as possible.
     
  6. Jan 30, 2017 #26 of 106
    DouglasPHill

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    Hit 5 different ATMs as quickly as possible, then drop card in trash. (the producers need to provide the rules to the public)
     
  7. Jan 30, 2017 #27 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    They did say in the first episode that they can only withdraw $100 per day.
     
  8. Jan 30, 2017 #28 of 106
    tcristy

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    We dont necessarily know the US show works the same way, but an article on the original UK version said the show worked like I suggested. Production had a group that gathered information provided by the contestants and their helpers as well as the field production crews (like camera shots, where they were, and what they were doing) and would then pass information to the hunt team if they specifically asked for it and it was something law enforcement would normally be able to get.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2017 #29 of 106
    fmowry

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    Well without the rules, it's hard to tell if $20 to get $100 has to be footed by the contestant or the accomplice. Contestants aren't paying accomplices to drive them around like taxis or Uber either. (and who paid for those stamps to send the envelopes to the contestants :)) It's at most $80 out of $500. Anyway, not arguing this just thinking of different ways to gain an advantage. I think I'd pay $20 X 4 if I didn't have to have a frantic escape from every ATM transaction location.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2017 #30 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    I suspect the accomplice can pay it if they're willing to do so. Just like they can offer other help such as rides. I don't see any reason why teams couldn't beg for money as well.

    As for "frantic escape from every ATM transaction location," I don't think there's really any danger of being caught immediately after making a withdrawal. You can leave the area long before the hunters would be able to get anyone to that location, even if they were receiving the transaction info in real time. The big issue is the clues that can be obtained from you popping up on the radar, such as: current location, current appearance, mode of transportation to/from ATM (if there are public cameras that capture you), direction of travel away from the ATM (public camera), ability to ask eyewitnesses in the area what they may have seen, etc. So I think the better method is to simply plan your ATM withdrawals in such a way that you make the withdrawal in an area that's as remote as possible, you make plans to leave the area immediately after making the withdrawal, and you try to change direction and mode of transportation immediately after leaving the ATM and getting out of sight of any public cameras near the ATM.
     
  11. Feb 1, 2017 #31 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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  12. Feb 1, 2017 #32 of 106
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    Interesting article. So we need to watch it with the idea that IF it were a real criminal investigation they would be able to do these things. OK. But it seems to give the producers a lot of slack in deciding what to tell the trackers and what not to--and therefore who gets caught and who doesn't???? There is a lot of money at stake.
     
  13. Feb 1, 2017 #33 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    My thoughts exactly. Production controls the distribution of information about where the players are, and they also have to pay the prize money if the players make it 28 days, so it seems like there's an inherent conflict of interest. All they have to do to avoid paying out too much prize money is dole out a little extra info to the hunters.
     
  14. Feb 2, 2017 #34 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    I was very surprised we didn't see anything about David and Emiley in this week's episode. It appears they're getting the "winner's edit" with them being the first team introduced so they want to stretch their story out. Contrast that with Troy and Chele last week, who talked about having been in the swamp for like 15+ days, and yet their entire story fit in a single episode. And tonight, with Will and Miles, they also said they'd been on the run for 15 days and they only got a single episode as well.

    The butt dial thing was so stupid. Not by the wife, that was just a dumb mistake. But the whole way the hunter team played it just seemed so childish. Why did they tell her about the "slashing tires" thing? It would have been much more effective if they just told her she left a butt-dial VM and leave her wondering when it happened and what she might have said. But it sounds like Lee's wife also has a burner phone, so it's going to be tough for the hunters to get on that method of communication between them.

    Aarif and Immad appeared to be pretty lucky getting the tip that their location might be compromised and moving before the hunters showed up. But I thought it was kind of weird that they didn't show them moving. They just showed the hunters talking to Jill and then said Aarif and Immad had already moved to the unaffiliated neighbor's house. I wonder if those things happened several days apart from each other but they're just editing things to make it look like the hunters were closer. That hook up with the camper and kayak seems like it could be very helpful for them.

    Sentra and Thu made some good moves, but also left some big clues. Having watched them, we now know not to spend any money anywhere close to where you make an ATM withdrawal. You need to park far away from the ATM, walk up to it from the side, and then walk away from the side and out of the range of any cameras before you get back in your vehicle. Same with the gas station. The hunters only knew to look at the camera footage from the gas station because of the ATM withdrawal at that location, so what they should have done is got gas at one location, and then found an ATM somewhere else that they could approach by foot with no camera coverage of the car. At least they were smart enough to back out and not let their plate get read. Unfortunately, it looks like they're about to get caught because they reached out to someone in their network.

    Miles and Will had a fantastic strategy that seemed to be working very well for them. They said they were 15+ days into their run when they got popped. I guess there's not really anything you can do if the hunters are offering monetary rewards to random strangers who have no loyalty to you. But their big mistake was staying connected to the sister after they were told the tip call had been made. At that point, they should have run as fast as they could away from anyone connected with that situation and found a ride out of town through some other method. I'd really love to know if the drones really worked as they showed in this episode, with the command center having a real-time feed and being able to fly close to each boat to look at the occupants and direct the hunters on the ground to the correct location. I also would like to know how the hunters knew to focus on the marina and the boats rather than anywhere else in that town. I suspect they just talked to people in the town, someone saw the boys with the camera crew going to the boat, so the hunters probably knew exactly where to look, and that's why they had all their resources focused on that area. It allowed them to use the drones and make that scene more exciting for TV, but I seriously doubt the drones were used to ID Will and Miles in real time.

    There's still one more team (English and Stephen) to be introduced. Hopefully they're not just another one-and-done team. If someone gets captured in the next episode, I hope it's an existing team and that the remaining teams get to be on the show for more than one episode each.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2017 #35 of 106
    DouglasPHill

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    The hunters being at the marina and actions seemed staged. Something isn't right about it.
     
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  16. Feb 2, 2017 #36 of 106
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    The fact that there was a camera crew on the boat with them and you never saw it on the drone feeds would certainly indicate that it was a reenactment.
     
  17. Feb 2, 2017 #37 of 106
    DouglasPHill

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    I like the idea of the show. I like learning how the good guys catch the bad guys. BUT, what rules we are aware of tilt the odds in favor of the good guys. There must also be some cheating because some things just don't make sense. For instance, the one couple that was in the woods and the good guys happen to end up there as well. I wish the producers would come forward with the rules and cheats that happen.
     
  18. Feb 2, 2017 #38 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    Did we ever get a clear enough and close enough view of what the drone was seeing to be able to tell if there was a camera crew on the boat? I don't remember ever seeing that shot.
     
  19. Feb 2, 2017 #39 of 106
    DevdogAZ

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    Are you talking about last week when Troy and Chele went in the woods and then one of the hunter teams was also walking down a trail in the woods? If so, they made it seem like the hunters were very close, but in reality, they never actually showed that the two were anywhere near each other. That didn't seem to me like it was manufactured at all. It just looked like the hunters going for a walk in the woods, without any clues or evidence as to the location of Troy and Chele. And since they didn't find T&C, then that's all it really was.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2017 #40 of 106
    fmowry

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    I know the premise of burner phones (thank you "The Wire") but can't you still just buy a SIM at any big box store and put it into a non-CDMA phone and then activate from the phone? Obviously people are buying phones but I thought you could get SIMS separately. Prior to going on the show buy your phone and don't activate til on the run. Or just do what Aarif and Immad and encrypt your own phone. I remember buying an Aruba SIM card like 8 years ago online when I went on vacation to Aruba and just put it in a cheap world phone I had.
     

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