Humax DVD "Saving Failed"

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by sirrob1, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. Feb 10, 2005 #21 of 130
    tom_da

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    I'd been turning out coasters :eek: too on my Humax. It seemed to be related to using Basic recordings and the software not correctly determining the size that would fit on a DVD. I think it was using the filesize as its queue, not taking into account that Basic recordings are smaller but longer running than the same filesize for a Best or High quality recordings. I think they think we'll all use Best for our recordings, but I still want to cram as much as I can on both the drive and DVD!

    I'd get coasters when I would select a lot of Basic recordings, up to 93-100%. It'd say it was fine, but would die with the couple of messages mentioned above. :mad:

    So I cut back to 73% and got consistent recordings. But lots of stuff (the Super Bowl, go Pats!) won't fit at 73%!

    But I went and did the Restart and tried the SuperBowl again. I was able to go right to 100%! Not only the Super Bowl, but the NFL Films shows on the Pats 2 other Super Bowl wins! (Dynasty ;) )

    I think we have to remember that TiVos run on Linux. I noticed wheree I work on software with Linux versions, that Linux is NOT faultless. In fact, we had more memory troubles with the Linux software than we did with the Windows versions! I think either memory is being lost in fragments or swap space on the drive was running out for similar reasons. You need contiguous space for good recordings and we never saw linux take care of this kind of thing well.

    But I loooove the TiVo interface! Best Linux I ever used! :D

    Another thing that bothers me though about the Humax, is it can't do incremental recordings! I don't want to make a weekly TV disc, with all my shows on it. I want to make an Enterprise disc, a SG1 disc, a Teen Titans disc. So I want to add a new show to each disc each week. Unless I use up my HD space for months for these few shows, to collect all the episodes for a disc, I can't do this! Every other DVD recorder allows this. But not the TiVo recorders! :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

    Thanks for the info guys!

    Tom D'A
    http://missing-pieces.com
     
  2. Feb 11, 2005 #22 of 130
    sirrob1

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    Nice post. As above, I have had similar experiences with the Tivo DVD burning. I have found something that has worked every time for burning now.

    Keep the burning screen Prep/Burn/Finialize up at all times til the disc is completed.

    My last dozen sucessful discs burnt without incident as long as I did this. Everytime I did not ended in a coaster!

    It is not such a pain. Just start burning as usual and stop back in 5 or ten minutes and scroll between cancel and return to tivo at the bottom of the screen. It is like moving your mouse and keeping a screen saver from starting but in this case keeps the burning screen 'saver' up for the entire burning session. Odd bug. Are you listening TiVo?
     
  3. Feb 11, 2005 #23 of 130
    ashu

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    NOT a bug. Its as designed. A few minutes (15?) of inaction in ANY menu, and you WILL return to Live TV. Live TV is being buffered all the time anyway, os its not like that part of your Humax is idle!

    I've burnt all my (admittedly few) DVDs on the Humax while doin other stuff more often than not - a scheduled recording, viewing a recording, trick-playing live TV etc.
     
  4. Feb 12, 2005 #24 of 130
    tivochiguy

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    I am also having a problem with saving DVDs and receive the message "could not be saved because of an internal error". It fails at about midpoint of saving three shows. I've rebooted the workstation and tried multiple DVDs. I'm using Verbatim that have all worked fine with burning other shows.

    I called Humax and talked with a Cust Serv Rep in New York and they said they had never heard of the problem. How can that be? Are all of you having the problem not calling in???

    This sucks!
     
  5. Feb 13, 2005 #25 of 130
    sirrob1

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    The bug is that the burning does not complete without the burning screen being maintained.

    You misunderstood the bug being the burning screen defaulting to live TV in 15 minutes. That is ok and was never the issue I stated above. Mis-burning is the issue and keeping the burning screen on is the solution. This silly necessity is the bug!
     
  6. Feb 23, 2005 #26 of 130
    whitmans77

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    has anyone eles had this problem recently??

    I have burned about 50-60 discs all with no problems then all of a sudden i cant burn a thing. I called humax and after asking some very dumb questions like "are you using dvd-r's " they just said that they would be willing to swap it out.

    do you guys think it is a hardware or software problem??
     
  7. Feb 23, 2005 #27 of 130
    bodonnell

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    I had the same failure. Called Humax level-1 support and they suggested a replacement unit so I swapped it out. But I've since learned that TiVo "pushes" a DVD firmware patch (possible supplied by Humax) from 1.08 to 1.15 and that patch is the culprit. That patch is suppose to make the DVD burn at a higher spin rate. After talking with level-2 Humax support they heard of the problem and said "the unit is working as designed", meaning, the DVD drive manufacturer specs say the drive is capable of a faster burn rate. So now I have Humax DTR800 #2 and so-far-so-good, but TiVo hasn't pushed the patch onto the box yet!
     
  8. Feb 23, 2005 #28 of 130
    whitmans77

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    is there any way we can keep our boxes from getting that patch.....is ther any way to revert back to the old version??
     
  9. Feb 23, 2005 #29 of 130
    Quantum Panda

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    This is the exact problem I'm having. Anyone have any idea what causes this? At first, I thought it might be the broadcast flag, but if the broadcast flag is preventing the burn, it ought to refuse to try to burn it, rather than starting and then returning an error.

    I have found a sort-of workaround for this, if it's important to you to burn one of these "problem" shows to DVD. Record it out to tape at highest quality, then record it back on to the hard drive (easy to do on the Humax recorders). Whatever the problem with the show is, it doesn't seem to carry over through this process. You lose some quality, but you do get to burn the show.

    +QP+
     
  10. Feb 23, 2005 #30 of 130
    whitmans77

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    i have tried to burn all types of shows with no luck--i even tried the restart and the whole unplugging bit with no avail....they way humax acted on the phone i believe they know its a problem .....
     
  11. Feb 24, 2005 #31 of 130
    sirrob1

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    Did you try to do this?

    Keep the burning screen Prep/Burn/Finialize up at all times til the disc is completed.

    Which is the problem show?
     
  12. Feb 24, 2005 #32 of 130
    whitmans77

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    I have tried all types of shows---even those that i have burned before, those offof th hostory channel that I know would not have been flagged. I also have trid leaving the screen up and watching live tv during and all other combos of tivo operation and i still get the error.
     
  13. Feb 24, 2005 #33 of 130
    adventurelarry

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    I have spoke to Humax again, and I am about to receive my third unit in three months.

    The first unit, after a week, would hang at the Now Playing page.
    The second unit stopped burning DVDs. (now I will not be able to burn the Super Bowl dagnabit) They said it was the Sony DVD-R so I have bought two additional brands, same problem. Internal Error.

    Lets see what happens with unit 3.

    At least I have plenty of blank dvds. ( I wonder if I transfer the Superbowl to my other Tivo, can I send it to my PC for Tivo To Go? I also wonder if I will ever get my rebate, and I also wonder if man will ever walk on Mars....)
     
  14. Feb 24, 2005 #34 of 130
    whitmans77

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    heres my question...i know i cant transfer from my s2 to the humax to burn BUT can i transfer from old humax to the new humax and burn then??
     
  15. Mar 12, 2005 #35 of 130
    jimmymac

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    I just started having this problem today. So far I've wasted 4 DVDs before I decided to log on here and see if others were having the issue. I've recorded a few DVDs before with no problem and only just decided to start saving more programs.

    Has anybody gotten anybody to acknowledge this is a problem?

    I've just rebooted the machine and going to try again to see if that helps. Any other suggestions?
     
  16. Mar 19, 2005 #36 of 130
    sirrob1

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    Guys, I have burnt about 20 dvd-r's with the burning screen up during the whole process and have not had a single failure! Maybe it corrected itself or ? I will try to burn a few dvd's without keeping the 'burning screen' up and see if it fails.
     
  17. Mar 21, 2005 #37 of 130
    dsc

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    I've had this problem only with recordings that I've imported from my DV cam. In these cases, I noticed that some white noise from an unused portion of the tape was recorded by my TiVo or some other random element was introduced (ie fast fowarding the tape) into the recording.

    My theory is the MPEG encoder cannot properly encode this random noise, and the burn fails. When I first had this problem, I tried rebooting and using other brands of DVD-R/RWs, and the problem remained. To solve my problem, I delete the recording causing the problem, and re-record it, this time making sure no static/white noise is recorded. Each time, the succeeding burn has been successful.

    So..I think some of the problems people have had depend solely on the recording they're trying to burn.
     
  18. Mar 28, 2005 #38 of 130
    Pete90291

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    I had a similar problem, then noticed that when I mix quality types on the DVD Burn it didn't work. So, using the same DVD's (HP 8x DVD-R, 50pack @ $25 Staples). I burned again matching Quality Types. That seemed to work GREAT...
     
  19. Mar 31, 2005 #39 of 130
    illuminations25

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    Originally...
    I've had problems where the shows will burn fine, but then afterward I will play them and fast forward through with the 5 minute tick marks, leave the show play for 3 seconds and then fast forward all the way through to make sure I have a clean burn. It will usually burn all the shows fine except one show that will cause the player to hang and the picture will freeze and then it can be a problem getting the disk out of the player because it locks up. Usually if I start a burn and then switch to live TV and do not touch a single button the burn will be okay, but even that's not starting to be a guarantee anymore. I'm using Sony DVD-R's btw.
     
  20. Apr 11, 2005 #40 of 130
    scottk52

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    first burn ever with the disk included with the unit.........FAILED!
    hmmmmmmmmm..
    I'll post more later...
     

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