Humax DRT800 Owner's Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by deputydog95, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Dec 2, 2004 #101 of 962
    pernar

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    I think the verbage in the manual is C.Y.A.. Nobody really knows when or if this stuff will come to pass, I wouldn't be too concerned.
     
  2. Dec 2, 2004 #102 of 962
    PocketPCGuy

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    It is a huge deal. I already have a DVD player as part of a 5.1 surround sound system downstairs, so I don't need this as a DVD player downstairs. Upstairs it would allow me to have one unit (TiVo+DVD) rather than 2 - a separate DVD player and TiVo. My downstairs unit is my main box so it records 99% of everything. I want a 2nd unit to record those occasional times (seems 2-3 times a month at least) when programs overlap. I also want a unit upstairs to transfer content to on the occasions when I want to watch something upstairs that I recorded downstairs.

    A bigger hard drive accomplishes... uhm... let me see... oh - none of that. ;) I am not going to record stuff twice just to accomplish this.

    If it can't record from other Series2 devices, I'll just get a cheap 40hr unit. The recording was sort of a bonus, not a lead reason, but it is enough of a downside that I can;'t justify an extra $200 for a feature that won't work for me.

    Why in the world did TiVo do this?
     
  3. Dec 2, 2004 #103 of 962
    ashu

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    TiVoToGo should, supposedly, be more powerful (if less user-'friendly' as in simple UI) to achieve what you desire.

    All upgrade paths should point towards adding hard drive space to powerful home PCs, now! And nice, cheap, fast DVD burners (approx $50, see newegg).

    Of course, it would be prudent to wait for TiVo's (over)due announcements about TTG first!

    <edit> For people who plan to not bother with setting up a home network or own multiple TiVos, the price and feature set of the DRT800 are absolutely unbeatable, however!

    (Despite being in the wait-and-see and computer-savvy groups, I'm still debating whether to open my killer-deal-from-Best-Buy DRT800 or sell it unopened! Its that tempting a device!)
     
  4. Dec 2, 2004 #104 of 962
    PocketPCGuy

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    Sounds like exactly what I was thinking. If TiVoToGo comes to fruition and it isn't an additional monthly charge, fine. If not, well, that's ok too. Sounds like its time to order that 40hr unit with WiFi dongle. :D
     
  5. Dec 2, 2004 #105 of 962
    sting

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    Here's an email I've received from Humax USA Technical Support today regarding the DRT800 DVD Recording Speed -

    "Humax has been made aware of the issue of DVD recording speed and we are working with TiVo on a solution. Please note that while the burner and media are capable of up to 4x recording, the actual time it takes to burn a disk is dependant on how many system resources are available. For example, if you are watching a recorded program while recording another one to the hard drive and burning a disk all at the same time, the burn speed may be slower than 4x. If just burning alone it will likely be up to 4x. We have heard of this issue and are working on resolving it. When the software upgrade will be available is still unknown. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused."
     
  6. Dec 2, 2004 #106 of 962
    Hank

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    If I want to transfer a bunch of VHS tapes, recorded at both SP and EP, to DVD, what recording levels would you suggest using on the DRT800 for each?
     
  7. Dec 2, 2004 #107 of 962
    jhm783

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    First of all, I love my DRT-800 Tivo. I am, however, a little disappointed with the video quality. Even just watching "live tv" is a little bit fuzzy, about the same as watching a VHS tape, but not really as clear as that displayed by the TV's tuner. I understand that I'm viewing a video stream coming from the hard drive. I assume this stream was written at the "best" quality. Don't get me wrong, it's OK, just a bit less than what I was expecting.
    As for the hard drive, I can see where there might be some maintenance problems since it is writing data 24/7. I'm thinking about upgrading to a bigger drive through weaknees.com.
    I also have a Pioneer DVR520H. Maybe its the compression techniques used, but the "standard" compression on the Pioneer (2hrs on a DVD) seems to be of superior video quality to even the "best" on the Humax. That is probably subjective, however.
    I am using the component video cables to connect to my Toshiba 40" projection TV with progressive scan enabled.
    BTW, playing a commercial DVD on the Humax yields astounding picture quality.
     
  8. Dec 2, 2004 #108 of 962
    sting

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    I haven't done it yet, I would probably use High for SP and Medium/Basic for EP. Just record 10 minutes at different levels and see for yourself. Good luck.
     
  9. Dec 2, 2004 #109 of 962
    Hank

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    Just as a point of information, my original 14-Hour Tivo from 1999 has been running 24x7 for more than five years without any problems at all. I wou;dn't worry about the 24x7 aspect of the HD in the Tivo.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2004 #110 of 962
    deputydog95

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    PocketPC: Why would you even consier the humax? Sounds like your main concern is recording and transferring. If you have no interest in burning to DVD, then why bother? I recommended a bigger hard drive so that you could consolidate your tivos and use just one. You are correct that it will not help out with overlapping shows though.

    Or...Just put the humax downstairs in your home theater rack and move your current tivo upstairs. If that's where you do most of your recording, then these are probably the programs that you will want to burn to dvd. Voila.

    As far as Tivo2go, it's going to be too slow. You'll only be able to transfer one show at a time, and tivo has no plans to release "g" capabality any time soon. It'll take too much time to make it worth your while. If you only want to burn a show from time to time, it'll probably be okay. If you're burning on a regular basis, it would too much of a PIA.
     
  11. Dec 3, 2004 #111 of 962
    deputydog95

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    BTW: pocketpc: Just so you're clear on this. You can transfer shows between the Humax and a regular series 2 machine, just like a regular tivo. You just can't burn transferred shows from another series 2 machine on the humax. Supposedly it has something to do with the format in which the show was recorded.
     
  12. Dec 3, 2004 #112 of 962
    PocketPCGuy

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    DVD burning isn't a necessity, but a nice perk. As for the Humax downstairs, there is no point. I already have DVD down there. I want a newer DVD player upstairs. Getting a Humax would have allowed me to get rid of my 5 year old DVD player upstairs and put one unit that does DVD playing/burning/TiVoing in one box. Burning seems to be out as it is not and will not be my primary TiVo box - that is downstairs and it has plenty of space. I am not paying $399 for that. I wound up buying an additional 40hr Tivo for upstairs for $170 and then I'll take the $100 rebate bringing the total to $70. :)

    As for TiVoToGo being too slow, that isn't a big problem. I'll burn a few DVDs a year and letting programs transfer at "b" speeds won't bother me.
     
  13. Dec 3, 2004 #113 of 962
    nickhull

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    I've just got my second DRT800, but haven't hooked it up yet. I'm just 'burning' to know whether shows transferred between them can be burned. The message you get for shows from a Series 2 is somthing like 'it was recorded from a device that is incompatible'. Now I have 2 compatible units, can they be transferred and burned? It's kind of pointless, I know, but inquiring minds want to know.
     
  14. Dec 3, 2004 #114 of 962
    deputydog95

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    tivo says that should work fine.
     
  15. Dec 3, 2004 #115 of 962
    CrispyCritter

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    Really, where did they say that? It's something that wasn't true of the original Pioneer models, though they suggested it should be true eventually (something about not enough meta-data was being transferred.)
     
  16. Dec 3, 2004 #116 of 962
    deputydog95

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    i was on the phone with tivo a little while back asking them some questions about my humax. one of my questions was about transfering from series 2 to the humax and burning. obviously the answer to that was "no", but the rep did say that you can transfer from humax to humax and burn with no problems, as they are recording in the same format.
     
  17. Dec 3, 2004 #117 of 962
    jratcliff

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    Not sure what this has to do with the problem I posted a couple of days ago (not being able to burn to a DVD-R disc, and other DVD players not being able to read from DVD-RW discs recorded from the Humax) but my Humax can now burn to my bargain basement DVD-R discs and the TDK DVD-RW disc that came with the unit can now be burned to and can be read from my other DVD players!

    So what changed?!?

    The only thing I did was to take my satellite receiver OFF of the Humax. I had them stacked with the Humax on the bottom, since it was the bigger of the two. Once I took off the receiver I tried to burn a DVD-R (which had been unsuccessful in my previous 3 attempts) and this time it worked. I tested this disc in my other DVD players and it worked.

    I then retried the TDK DVD-RW and burned a show onto it. I then tried it in another DVD player... and it worked!!!!

    So, I'm guessing by having some "weight" on top of of the Humax was causing problems with the burning of discs???
     
  18. Dec 3, 2004 #118 of 962
    silentguy

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    More likely RF interference than physical weight.
     
  19. Dec 3, 2004 #119 of 962
    skanter

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    What size monitor?
     
  20. Dec 3, 2004 #120 of 962
    wpatters1229

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    I have a Humax 800 and just got it working on my wireless network. Tried watching a program recorded on my series 2 in the front room and it keeps stopping saying it has to load more data and then press play again. I guess I have to do transfers at night and then watch them the next day. To answer the question if you can record something transfered from a series 2...NO. I was told that is because it was recorded for output to tape and not in Mpeg2 format which is what the DVD burner needs. You would think that when the transfer occurs they would use the encodeing to make the transfered file mpeg2 format so it could then be burned. I have tons of stuff on my series 2 that I want to burn to DVD and will not have to wait for the Tivo to Go....if it ever gets here. I'd sure like to read the details on that new feature....any idea where I can read details about Tivo to go....not a press release but the tech version.
     

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