Humax DRT800 Owner's Club

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by deputydog95, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Nov 24, 2004 #21 of 962
    flymhi

    flymhi TiVoManiac

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    My splitter is at the wall similar to yours. I'm sure the surge protector does degrade the signal somewhat although it's probably marginal.

    Also, I have a friend who used to work for Comcast (AT&T then). According to him the number of splitters you run without ghosting or signal degredation varies in different areas. (You can also run active splitters / powered splitters" instead of the Walmart brand passive splitters) For passive units, it largely depends on how many houses are served from the nearest hut. Comcast mainly has fiber to the curb in most metro areas so it's no longer dependant on how far you are from the cable head-end.
     
  2. Nov 24, 2004 #22 of 962
    dvdmon

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    I got my DRT-800 a couple of weeks ago and got the BB price-glitch discount.

    So far so good. Guys, if you are having issues with quality, try setting the default recording quality to best. I'm not sure if that also makes the 30-minute buffer best, but it's worth a shot. Maybe I'll test it out today and set the default to medium and see if my quality goes down the tubes.

    I have the best setup possible for this - DirectTV to Humax via SVideo, then Humax to TV via Component. I can still see a difference even at Best, and I'm sure it's because of the inherent technology here. After all, you are doing a conversion from digital to analog via the Satellite receiver, then to digital in the Humax, then to analog again to the TV. All of those conversions have got to degrade things at least some!

    I've only encountered two "issues" so far. One is that on some programs I seem to get a "hickup" at one point during the program. It's like a skip in the audio and video and sometimes this is accompanied by a split-second grey screen. Has anyone else encountered anything like this? I've only noticed this on the TiVo playback, but I haven't watrched many of the DVD's I've burned yet, so I don't know if these experience this problem as well. I have no clue whether they coincide with burning at the same time that a recording was being made, but at least in once case I don't believe anything esle was going on other than the HD recording and watching...

    The other issue regards the recording of content in 16:9 aspect ratio. I have a wide-screen TV and on the HD channels off the satellite it will display in 16:9. When I record these with the Humax, I can play them back of the hard drive and they will display in 16:9 (widescreen). However, when I burned one of these to a DVD-R, it put bars around all four sides. When I loaded it into my laptop and checked the DVD's properties, it told me it was in 4:3. I have progressive scan set to Auto, but I have no idea whether that would be related. I tried calling Humax about it, but after getting transferred a couple of times and then told they needed to call me back, I never heard from them - this was a week or so ago.

    As for DVD's, I've been able to find 4x DVD-R's for about $.50 each and DVD-RW's for about $2 each. There's no indication on the DVD-RW's what speed they are, so I assume that means they are 1X and recording with them seems to confirm that. The DVD-R's however do seem to record stuff a lot faster. Not sure if it ends up as 4X, but it's at least 2X (based on the assumed speed of the DVD-RW's) and perhaps 3-4X...

    I think it would be great to have a forum on DVD recording TiVo's, but if the admins don't want this, I'd be happy to start up a Yahoo! Group for the purpose of talking about this model if there's any interest.
     
  3. Nov 25, 2004 #23 of 962
    jonb

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    Whether I buy the DRT-800 will depend on this as well as: 1)Is burning strictly an overnight job(cannot do normal fast-forward, normal hard-drive tivoing at the same time)? 2)How much picture quality is lost from original cable source to playing back the dvd on a separate dvd player? There has to be other gotchas as well in this? Please early DRT-800 owners, HELP US FUTURE OWNERS!
     
  4. Nov 25, 2004 #24 of 962
    dvdmon

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    Overnight? No! Even at 1x, it's still real-time, meaning a two hour movie will take two hours to burn. I can burn a two-hour move in a lot less - 30-45 minutes maybe? I haven't timed it, though.

    I'm not sure about quality loss because there's no way to quantify it. Suffice it to say you aren't going to get true DVD quality. You're doing lots of analog-digital-analog conversions. The quality isn't bad at the "best" level, but it's not perfect. Maybe 95%? Again, I have no way of quantifying it. If you want pristine copies of shows you will either need to buy the DVD of it (if it's being sold) or build your own PVR with a computer and an HD Tuner card and record it that way.

    Gotcha's? Nothing's perfect! The one thing that annoys me most is that the recording options are pretty much nonexistant. You can span a movie onto multiple discs or fit multiple smaller programs on one disc (the worse the quality setting they were recorded on the more you can put on one DVD), but that's about it. I would love the ability to record just a piece of a program - even if commercials can't be edited out, there's often stuff at the beginning and/or end that has nothing to do with the given program/movie. Ok, well in most cases they are commercials, but I think in such cases we should be able to edit them out. Also, sometimes there may be only one segment of a given program that I'm interested in, but I'm forced to burn the entire thing.
     
  5. Nov 25, 2004 #25 of 962
    retired_guy

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  6. Nov 25, 2004 #26 of 962
    dvdmon

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  7. Nov 25, 2004 #27 of 962
    lwsexson

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    Another Humax owner. Any kind of forum to concentrate the issues would be good. I am still having trouble with Multi Room Viewing. I have not tried to reconnect it lately. It never worked longer than three days and it is just not worth the trouble.

    If someone can shed any light on the problem beyond turning MRV of on the web site, forcing calls to make the MRV inactive on the Tivo boxes. Reactivating online and forcing calls to reactivate, etc -- I would appreciate it.

    LWS

    Tivo Series 2 - 40 hour
    Humax DRT 800 - 80 with DVD-R/RW
    Wireless Linksys WRK54G and WUSB11 wireless adapters
    Comcast Cable TV and Broadband
     
  8. Nov 25, 2004 #28 of 962
    jonb

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    Does anyone have an answer to 1)? Do you DRT-800 owners multi-task burning at the same time you are doing normal tivo tasks? I ask because I have a 1yr old XP PC system, where they tell you to "shutdown other programs when burning cd's". Does the DRT-800 have similar warnings? Have you destroyed dvd media when burning and tivoing at the same time? Or is the DRT-800 software setup to disallow any other tasks when burning?
     
  9. Nov 25, 2004 #29 of 962
    GT7420

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    I also own the Humax DRT800. Count me in. I've had it for about two weeks so far, and upgraded it to 286 hours with a 250GB drive. So far it's working perfectly. I've only burned one DVD-RW as a test and that went well too. I haven't tested it enough to determine what speed it might be burning at.
     
  10. Nov 26, 2004 #30 of 962
    sting

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    I have a DRT800 for just over a week and I've been reasonably happy with it so I also picked up a Lifetime sub. The only thing that I'm disappointed is its lack of high-speed DVD dubbing, which is a step back from Pioneer's last year model 810H.

    Here's my experience on DVD burning speed on a DRT800 using both Memorex 4xDVD-R and 2x DVD-RW -

    for a full DVD -

    Best Quality ~2X (35 minutes)
    High Quality ~1X (50 minutes)
    Medium Q. ~ 1X (60 minutes)

    Hope this information helps.

    I'm thinking about upgrading my DRT800 with a 300+GB drive by myself but am not sure which drive's the best to get and if there are simple to follow step-by-step instructions. I'm not even sure it's doable for me as I only have a Win98SE IBM notebook (w/ CD and floppy drives) and a WinMCE2004 Toshiba notebook (w/o a floppy drive).
     
  11. Nov 26, 2004 #31 of 962
    Greenwing

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    How many minutes of actual viewable recording for each of the above...i.e. was your Medium Q DVD 4 hours of material?
     
  12. Nov 26, 2004 #32 of 962
    sting

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    Each recording was for a full DVD, which means one hour program for Best, two hours for High and four hours for Medium.
     
  13. Nov 26, 2004 #33 of 962
    steve0617

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    Girlfriend's father has the Series Two 80 hr stand alone. Now he wants to be able to take the recorded shows with him via DVD to watch when he travels.

    As I understand it:

    1. If he simply buys a seperate DVD recorder and connects the two, he will only be able to transfer off the Series Two to the DVD at real time e.g. one hour show takes one hour to transfer to a DVD.

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    a. If he replaces the Series Two with the DRT800, will he be able to record the shows directly to the DVD, bypassing the HDD and the associated transfer/burn process?

    b. If you *cannot* record directly to the DVD disk, you can transfer from the HDD to the DVD at faster than real time, but the actual minutes required will depend on the recorded video quality? So, a show on the HDD recorded at 'best' will take the longest to burn to the DVD, since the actual file size would be the largest, right? Is there a 'rule of thumb' on how long that takes compared to the show's length? e.g. One hour of 'best' quality recording will take XX minutes to burn to a DVD, assuming top quality DVD-R/RW media?

    3. Anything I'm missing here?

    Thanks all.
     
  14. Nov 26, 2004 #34 of 962
    jonb

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    Forget bypassing the HDD. The timing required to burn a DVD is completely non-compatible with the real-time. See the above posts for DRT-800 burn times. You do the burning AFTER the show has been tivoed.
     
  15. Nov 26, 2004 #35 of 962
    steve0617

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    Thanks for your info but I'm asking if it *can be done* that the show is directly recorded to the DVD...
     
  16. Nov 26, 2004 #36 of 962
    deputydog95

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    Anybody else notice the Tivo screen menu on the burnt dvd's, tends to flicker or shake a little? Mostly around the edges? I noticed that I get this on the top edge of some movies I've burnt as well. I record only in medium quality to get more on the DVD's.

    Okay, so I understand that a full DVD(regardless of the number of hours of programing on there) should take one hour at 1x and15ish minutes at 4x.
    Will the Humax actually burn at 4x? Is that confirmed? It's my understanding that's it's capable anyway. The media I bought (Sony DVD-RW) was not labeled. Guess I got to assume it's 1x then.

    Steve: If you try to do the same thing with the separate DVD burner, then you will have to wait one hour to transfer a one hour show, and then however long it takes to burn it. This is what kept me from waiting on the Tivo2Go service. You'll only be able to transfer one show at a time and it will be real time. And then you'll have to burn it. Way to much planning and it takes way too long. Humax is the way to go.

    DVDMON: I have not noticed the gray screen hiccup your referring to.
     
  17. Nov 26, 2004 #37 of 962
    sting

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    Toshiba told me that the fast DVD dubbing was left out of the feature set of RS-TX20/60, I assume the same for Humax based on my experience.
     
  18. Nov 26, 2004 #38 of 962
    deputydog95

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    So is there any point to buying media faster than 1x?
     
  19. Nov 26, 2004 #39 of 962
    sting

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    Yes, to get ~2x DVD dubbing for recordings in Best Quality.

    Somebody had posted elsewhere that a higher speed DVD media is of better quality, don't have the information to verify that though.
     
  20. Nov 26, 2004 #40 of 962
    deputydog95

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    so if i understand it correctly, anything less than best quality automatically defaults to 1x speed?
     

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