Hulu+ = Big Rip-Off!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Emacee, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. Jan 1, 2012 #1 of 69

    Emacee Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    IMHO Hulu+ really sucks. It's supposed to be one of the big selling points for upgrading to Tivo Premiere and Elite, the service not available on Series 3/HD. It's not worth it. Hulu+ requires a $7.99 a month subscription. I don't mind paying for content (a reasonable price). But Hulu+ is loaded with commercials. Lots of commercials. Interrupting shows or movies seemingly at random with no regard for content. Frequent interruptions. And the same commercials over and over. No way to skip or fast forward. And you have to pay for the privilege.

    Hulu+ lets you watch shows and movies on devices other than your PC (like Tivo, Roku, tablets and smartphones). But you can watch Hulu for free on your PC. They hint there is some exclusive content available only to Plus subscribers but I haven't found it. And for free you get the same commercials and the same amount of interruptions as with Plus. Why the <bleep> should I pay to watch commercials I am not interested in, over and over?

    I can do without all these extra services that keep bloating my Tivo. Netflix doesn't work very well and all these "extras" seem to do is slow down the system and cause performance issues. But even with good performance, Hulu+ is worse than useless. I read the TV networks are pulling their shows. Good. Hulu deserves to go under.
  2. Jan 1, 2012 #2 of 69

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Yeah, I don't get the value proposition for Hulu Plus. There are some shows that, even with Hulu Plus, you can't watch on "connected devices" (IE: you have to watch them on a computer)
  3. Jan 1, 2012 #3 of 69

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    Many of us concluded Hulu+ wasn't worth much when it was released at least then we all got a free month to find out what we thought. There are several threads about it.

    However you do get several things with Hulu+ that you do not with the free service:

    1. Access on connected devices - free service is only available on a computer
    2. HD content - all content on the free service is 480p or less much of the content on Hulu+ is 720p
    3. Access to some content not available on the free Hulu service.
    The bottom line is Hulu+ is what it is and everyone gets to decide if it is worth $8/mo or not. For my money it is not worth paying for, but then I do have a HTPC connect to my home theater so I have access to lots of stuff from the web including the free Hulu service.

    If I was trying to or all ready had (which I have) "cut the cord" and didn't have a HTPC I am sure at least one of the 3 monthly streaming services would be of interest to me (Netflix, Hulu+, & Amazon Prime). So it is good that the Premiere offers access to Hulu+, of course it would be better if they updated their Netflix app and added Amazon Prime.
  4. Jan 1, 2012 #4 of 69

    Soapm Active Member

    May 9, 2007
    Aurora, CO
    Are they still offering a free period of Hulu for us premier owners? I would like to take it for a test run...
  5. Jan 1, 2012 #5 of 69

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I find Hulu+ to be well worth it for $8. Maybe not as good a deal as my Netflix streaming, but I do use Hulu+ on a regular basis. Just not as much as Netflix. The commercials of course suck, but I don't mind when they are 30 seconds or less. It's the longer commercials that are a pain. But at least there are a third less commercials than on broadcast.
  6. Jan 1, 2012 #6 of 69

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    Jul 14, 2002
    Hulu+ is just one more reason to use BT.
  7. Jan 1, 2012 #7 of 69

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
  8. Jan 1, 2012 #8 of 69

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    I think he means BitTorrent
  9. Jan 1, 2012 #9 of 69

    lrhorer Active Member

    Aug 31, 2003
    Then don't buy it. I don;t, and evidently neither do you. So what's the beef?

    From what I have been able to tell, other than network performance, there are no selling points for "upgrading" to a Premier.

    How do they bloat the TiVo?

    No, not really. The engines that provide these services aren't operational until they are put into use. Until then they do nothing.
  10. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

    May 1, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    Big rip off? No. They are providing a service, and you accept the terms or not.

    I agree that it is not worth the cost. In my mind, you should get the benefit of commercial free viewing if you pay a subscription fee.
    They're trying to get the best of both worlds, and I hope it fails.
    I think it's kinda sad. I'd bet Hulu+ would have double the subs if they did away with the commercials.
  11. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    If you have three shows that you want to record at the same time and one of them is shown on Hulu+, then you can still watch the third show later. The same is true if you forget to record a show. Hulu+ can act as a third tuner.
  12. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

    May 13, 2007
    Durham, NC
    I tried it. Too many commercials. I'd rather pay for Amazon or iTunes than watch commercials. Too bad NetFlix got so crappy. It was good for a while.

  13. steve771

    steve771 Member

    Dec 29, 2011
    Las Vegas
    Well, in theory. But for as often as this will happen, you probably could just as easily watch it 'live' (w/o Tivo) and save $8. Just sayin' for those limited times, there are alternatives (such as BT as someone mentioned).

    I tried Hulu+. It's merely 'ok' and not worth the $8 IMHO. If they took out the commercials, maybe. If they broadcast all content in HD and did so right after broadcast maybe.

    But hey, someone must be subscribing as it hasn't failed yet.
  14. JosephB

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Well, they were making money before Hulu+. It's owned and operated by the networks, so this is just icing on their cake. They have very little costs, licensing is just moving money from one ledger account to another.
  15. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

    Jul 6, 2002
    heck if Hulu+ was a superset of Hulu i'd be interested but having things on Hulu that aren't on Hulu+ is just wrong.
  16. Emacee

    Emacee Member

    Dec 15, 2000
    From what I can see, regular Hulu has fewer interruptions during a show and less repetition of the same commercial(s) during a show. Less annoying; no charge. And with AdBlock Plus, you don't even have to see the commercials (you get black screen with a message telling you to disable your ad blocking software but then you go back to the show).

    The rip-off is they want you to pay for Hulu+ and have more interruptions and more annoying interruptions. Just because I don't chose to buy it doesn't make it less of a rip-off. And people should say so until enough bad word of mouth gets to this company.

    I understand Disney, which has an interest in Hulu, is going to stop making ABC shows available on Hulu. So, it has even less value.

    @lrhomer: I am not a tech expert but I've seen enough bloatware to recognize it. Since the more recent versions of Tivo software have been issued (forced on users) the degradation of throughput has been noticeable. It's like when Microsoft issued a new version of Windows and if you upgraded you saw the hourglass a lot more. Except Tivo has no hourglass or spinning circle - you push the remote, the little light on the front of the box flashes, but nothing happens (for several seconds or ever). This problem has been happening as Tivo keeps adding more ads and more non-DVR functions (and god knows what else that we can't see).
  17. Turtleboy

    Turtleboy Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Mar 24, 2001
    Ft. Lauderdale
    The Networks don't want you to subscribe to Hulu+. They want you to watch commercial TV (with the commercials).
  18. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

    Jul 6, 2002
    spot on! they really have no interest in Hulu succeeding, they just want it there to show that they "care" about the changes to how we want out media.
  19. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Feb 22, 2009
    They did when I bought mine last year -- 6 months free. I plan to activate it at the last minute which is in a few months.
  20. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

    Jul 10, 2004
    San Diego,...
    Some of them certainly don't mind :D. Hulu is a joint venture of NBC/Universal, Fox Entertainment Group and Disney-ABC Television Group.

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