HR21: Upgrade Internal HD

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  1. stevel

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    Many SATA drives ship with a jumper that limits them to SATA I (150mbps) speeds. If yours has such a jumper you should remove it, though I think the practical difference ina DVR will be nil. That's the only jumper I've ever seen used on a SATA drive.
     
  2. RandCfilm

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    I don't know about the WD drive but I just upgraded two with Seagate (5 year warranty) 1 TB drives with no problems. Also saved my current recordings in the process.:)
     
  3. Eben

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    Can you point me to a picture of the inside of an HR21 that shows what I'd unplug?
    Thanks.
     
  4. stevel

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    You'd unplug the power and data connections to the drive - standard cables. The layout inside varies by box manufacturer.
     
  5. newsposter

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    does this help?

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=83811
     
  6. Eben

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    FWIW, there was some talk that there was less compatibility problems if you put the 150mbps jumper ON. I have them jumpered that way on all of my units and have no problems. Whether it actually makes a compatability difference or not I don't know. However it has no affect on performance.
     
  8. stevel

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    I agree - the DVR cannot take advantage of SATA II speeds, so leaving the jumper on should be fine.
     
  9. Fezmid

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    Well, I went to try replacing the internal drive today and noticed that the box is screwed together with a special looking screw. It's a star, but there's a little bump in the middle. Obviously trying to make it as tough as possible to open... Anyone know where to get a screwdriver like that? Ideally I'd buy from Amazon if they offered Prime shipping, but I don't know what to search for.

    In addition -- if I connect an external drive and later put it internal -- will that be a seamless transition? I'm assuming the system won't know since it's only using a single bus, but I want to make sure. :)

    EDIT: After searching around, I believe I'm looking for a "security torx" set. I think this will work, right?
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/handle-buy-box/ref=dp_start-bbf_1_glance
     
  10. TonyTheTiger

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    IIRC it's a #10 star driver. I think this would do the trick.
     
  11. stevel

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    That's a "Security Torx" bit, TS-10. Here is one set sold by Amazon. A standard Torx bit will not work. You may want to check your local Home Depot, Lowes or even RadioShack to see if they sell these. Usually they come in sets. I have a nice set from Wiha (as part of a "security bits" set).

    I don't know what happens if you take a drive that had been mounted externally and then mount it internally. I'd guess that it would not notice the difference, but I don't recall a discussion of this before.
     
  12. RandCfilm

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    Security torx is the name you are looking for and the size is 10 or T10. If you have a bit holder screw driver you might think about getting a complete set of security bits, you never know when you will be working on something unusual.
     
  13. Fezmid

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    Just ordered one from Amazon (didn't feel like searching for it at Home Depot). It'll be here Thursday.

    In the meantime, I put my 1TB drive into the MX-1 enclosure, plugged it into the receiver and powered it up -- worked without a hitch.

    I'll let everyone know if it works to just put it internally once I get the stupid special screwdriver bit.
     
  14. mrpope

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    to help you search, it's called a torx bit. probably a #10 like Tony mentioned. you can get one at just about any hardware store.


    sorry, replied to the first page.
     
  15. jimb726

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    It would be interesting to hear how you make out taking it from external to internal. I cant imagine that the system would know anybetter, although I wonder if the system somehow automatically reformats if it detects a "new" drive being plugged in. I think I would test it before I recorded too much. It would suck to record 20 or 30 hours and swap it and have the sucker reformat.
     
  16. Fezmid

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    Yeah, there's not much on this week - and I should be able to go from external to internal on Thursday so there won't be anything important recorded on the DVR. I'll keep people posted. :)
     
  17. jimb726

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    Please keep us posted as I would like to know the answer. I currently run an external but you never know how decor changes in the house, and the need may arise someday to not have the external enclosure sitting out.
     
  18. BlankMan

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    Wow. I didn't know it was this easy to up the hours. :cool:

    Does this work on an HR20 too?
     
  19. stevel

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    Yes. Depending on the model, it may be trickier to swap out the drives (for my HR20-100 I had to get a long-shank Torx driver), but the basics are identical.
     
  20. BlankMan

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    Thanks. I do believe I have a 100. But luckily I have a set of 6" SnapOn Torx drivers and an additional #10 same length. I do hope that's long enough...
     

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