HR21: Upgrade Internal HD

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  1. gq91355

    gq91355 New Member

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    I'm aware of the option to connect an external HD to the HR21. Can anyone point me to a link with instructions or a thread about upgrading the internal HD on the HR21?

    Thanks!
     
  2. shibby191

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    DBSTalk will be your best resource for this kind of question. FYI that if you crack it open and replace the internal drive you are breaking the terms of your lease. Just letting you know.
     
  3. sjberra

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    Why bother, get a 1TB Esata, plug it in RBR and you are done, why run a chance of violating your lease terms
     
  4. stevel

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    The details vary depending on which manufacturer of HR21 you have, the 100, 200 and 700 are somewhat different internally. However, all this really changes is how you disassemble the box to replace the hard disk.

    The actual act of replacing is simple. Disconnect old, connect new, put box back together and power on.

    As mentioned, this technically violates your lease agreement. There are some valid reasons for doing it if you want to go that way, if you understand the risks.
     
  5. gq91355

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    I likely will end up going that route. Any recommendations on the best brand 1 TB external HD to use?

    Literally, remove the existing HD, replace it with a new HD out of the box, and that's it? No formatting, software, or anything?
     
  6. stevel

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    No formatting, no software. Just stick a blank disk (or previously formatted, doesn't matter) in there. When the box powers up, it will reformat the disk as needed. Some of your preferences will be retained, as they're not stored on the disk, but any programs or series links will not.

    You want a SATA II disk. I'd recommend looking for one with a reputation for running cool and quiet and not just going for the cheapest. You don't need the "highest performing" drive in this application.

    FWIW, I have done this with both my HR2x boxes.
     
  7. gq91355

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    Thanks for the info, Steve. I would be very interested in the specific make/model HD you got. I plan on upgrading the HR21-100.
     
  8. stevel

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    I used "Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB" in each. There may be newer models. Samsung Spinpoint and the Seagate AV line are also good choices.
     
  9. Avenger

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    A poster at dbstalk has kindly written a whole step-by-step for swapping the internal drive while preserving season passes / recordings / etc. It worked perfectly for me. Here's the link:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=100894&page=6

    You could use a variant of it to transfer recordings and such from the internal drive to an added external drive as well.

    As for the lease, screw 'em. I kept the original drive on the shelf and, if I need to, I could swap it back in within 20 minutes to send the unit back to them. They'd never know the difference.
     
  10. Mark Lopez

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    All three of my units are using WD 1TB drives in Antec MX-1 enclosures. This seems to be the most widely used and problem free combination. Runs super cool and you can't even hear it.

    Also, if using an external drive, I recommend opening the HR2x case and just unplugging the internal drive. Since it's not used when an external drive is connected, it will run cooler. Just keep in mind that the temperature reading comes from the drive, so if you unplug it, the temp will always read 32F (0C).

    As for the whole 'it will violate your lease agreement' scare tactic, don't forget Tivo had the same 'opening will void your warranty' thing and it didn't stop anyone. IMO, it's a non-issue.
     
  11. gq91355

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    Looks like Costco.com has the Western Digital 1 TB My Book, with eSATA, for $229. Has anyone tried this model?
     
  12. Mark Lopez

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    I think there is an issue with the My Book (or some specific model) with the HR21 series (but works ok with HR20). Your best bet is to check over at dbstalk to see which unit has the issues.

    <edit> It looks like it's the FAP unit that has issues. But this thread will probably answer ay questions you may have

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=1288747
     
  13. EricG

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    Just for my own info, how much HD content can you get on a TeraByte?
     
  14. gr00vie

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    I just did this from newegg and it cost me about 286.00 total.

    Not sure how many hours I have though.

    Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS 1TB 5400 to 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

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    Antec MX-1 USB2.0 & eSATA External Enclosure - Retail
     
  15. Mark Lopez

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    Generally speaking, each one hour of mpeg4 HD appears to uses about .8% of the available space. So I would say about 125hrs of HD. YMMV.
     
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    I'm a fan of the Samsung Spinpoint. They're heavier and feel like they're more solidly made. They're also very quiet.
     
  17. Fezmid

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    Anyone know if the WD Green Power 1TB drive will work as an INTERNAL replacement on the HR21?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136151

    I see someone mentioned that they used it in an Antec case, but I'd prefer to put it internal to save space and power.

    I've upgraded several TiVos in the past - and this looks like it should be a drop-in replacement so really easy.

    Let me know, thanks!
     
  18. stevel

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    Any SATA drive will work internally. Keep in mind that you are not supposed to open the box - you (probably) don't own it.
     
  19. Fezmid

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    Great, thanks!

    I probably don't own my current one - but since they replaced an owned HR10-250 with this, I'm going to do it anyway and hope for the best... :)

    Thanks again!
     
  20. Fezmid

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    BTW - I've seen some people post about needing to put a jumper on some drives... is that only for external?
     

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