HR20 & HR10-250 living happily together?

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  1. mdh333

    mdh333 New Member

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    I currently have 2 HR10-250s, and one SD Tivo. I have the 3lnb dish, with antenna attached to it.

    I'm getting an HR20 tomorrow, complete with new dish. I don't want to have 2 dishes on my house (for a variety of reasons.)

    Can the installer remove the old dish, put the antenna on the new dish (maybe he'd need something to make it fit?), and just reuse the existing wires? I'm sure that I would have to make sure that the work order says this, but is it feasible?

    From most of my past installers, I assume he'll show up planning on just putting a new dish up and running new wires so I duplicate everything and it's as easy as possible for him.

    (oh, I realize that unless I run some new wires from the multi-switch I won't be able to really use both the HR20 & HR10-250 that it's kinda replacing at the same time. But that would be a simple run under the house that I could do in the future if I want both running.)
     
  2. bidger

    bidger Active Member

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    I can't speak for the dish-mount antenna, one of the reasons I opted for a chimney-mount antenna separate from the dish, but since you'll have four leads coming from the dish, of course you can use the HR10 and HR20 together. If you want to use all three of your existing DVRs you need a 4 input 8 output multiswitch.
     
  3. gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    They will have to remove the old dish/post. The wiring can stay the same. Just make sure that the WB68 Multi-Switch in ON your work order.

    I have the same set-up running. A HR10-250 with a HR20 in the house.
     
  4. mdh333

    mdh333 New Member

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    What about the OTA antenna? Is there one that attaches to the new dish? or can my existing one attach? (it's just a very simple one provided by DTV during a previous install)

    I already have a powered multi-switch (4*8, I believe) is there any reason I would need a new one?
     
  5. Mr_Bester

    Mr_Bester New Member

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    You need the new multiswitch to get the new sats. You cannot diplex in the ota with the sat on the 5lnb. You need a separate run for your ota.
    Dug
     
  6. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    A slight correction. You can not diplex in the OTA on the lines feeding the HR-20 but you can on the lines feeding the HR10.
     
  7. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Sure, you can run as many receivers, old and new, as you want.

    1) They will (or should) replace your dish with the new 5 LNB dish.
    2) Your current OTA antenna cannot be diplexed when using the new 5 LNB dish. You need to run a separate cable for the antenna into the house. Also the antenna you have if it clips on the dish may not fit on the 5LNB. Won't know until the installer gets there I guess.
    3) Yes, you need to replace your mutliswitch and it is included in the install for free. Be sure it's on your work order. You will get the WB68 which has 8 outputs
    4) As mentioned above, you *can* diplex in OTA to the other non HR20 receivers but *after* the multiswitch. So run the dedicated OTA cable to the same location as your multiswitch. Then you can split it and diplex into the lines running to the HR10s. You'll need to run a dedicated line to the HR20, no diplexing.
     
  8. mdh333

    mdh333 New Member

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    Thanks. I'll make the work order includes the new multi-switch (though, they always seem to have plenty of those to give out)

    I already have a seperate cable run for the OTA that just does an old-school split under the house, so should be good there as long as the antenna can be made to fit....hmm, might need to find some duct tape.
     
  9. BruceShultes

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    From what I have read, the standard installation of the new dish for the HR20 does not include removal of any old dishes.

    If you want it removed, you will probably need to pay the installer to do it.
     
  10. gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    How told you that? I had my 3 lnb removed so the 5 lnb could go in the same spot.

    When I had the 3 lnb installed, it was mounted to another spot so they left the 1 lnb. But they offered to remove it. But I use it to feed another room.

    Maybe on a roof install as they don't want leaks or repair your roof.
     
  11. beartrap

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    Not my experience. I got a HR20 to supplement my two HR10s, and the old 3LNB dish and post were removed, and the new 5LNB dish was put in its place, all as part of the standard install.
     
  12. bidger

    bidger Active Member

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    They took my old dish. Funny thing is when they installed the HR10 the previous year, the installer left the old one behind so maybe it's just the whim of the installer.
     
  13. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    FYI that the 5 LNB dish will *not* fit on the post for the 3 LNB dish, they are different sizes. The 5 LNB takes a 2" OD (outside diamater) while the 3 LNB takes 1 5/8th" OD.
     
  14. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    My installer not only removed the old 3 LNB dish when he put up my new 5 LNB dish, but he threw the 3-LMB dish on the lawn from the roof, banging it up pretty good and also digging a hole in the lawn! (Needless to say, I was pissed. I had plans for that old dish! :mad: )
     
  15. Cmmsh

    Cmmsh NOLA 8.29.05

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    Same here ... just had it done last week. Threw the 3-LNB dish on the lawn, and left it and the hole in the grass for me to clean up.
     
  16. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    At least they did not throw it off the roof and crack the shell of your spa. Still trying to collect the money.
     
  17. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    OK, you win! :p
     
  18. boltjames

    boltjames New Member

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    The HR10 and the HR20 are mortal enemies and cannot play nice together. You're either with us or you're without us.

    BJ
     
  19. drew2k

    drew2k Drew != Drawn

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    I'm hoping that was made in jest, but if not ...

    That may be the case for some, but that's not the case for all. I do not share this belief, and there are many other HR10 and HR20 owners who also do not share this belief.
     
  20. mdh333

    mdh333 New Member

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    Well - I'm all installed and good to go. They removed the old dish...but left the post which had the antenna. Seemed a fair trade, considering it all wouldn't have fit anyway.

    No new multi-switch needed (I have some powered 4x8 one that's under my house and I'm too lazy to figure out the exact model), and the new one is setup. Guess I'll figure out what I think about it...but in reality, I know it's not like I'm going to be able to stick with the HR10-250 forever. I'm already happy to have added Fox Sports Florida in HD (hmm, at least I think I am....wonder what channel that will be?)
     

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