HR20 Cost for new subscriber

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by mburnno, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. mburnno

    mburnno Member

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    Greetings all, I notice a number of you in here have both the Direct tivo and the HR20. I would love to switch from my series 3 or use it with Directv HD. So my question is this, Why would anyone pay the price tag of $299.00 to lease the HR20 HD DVR from Directv and not own it? Now if I have miss spoken please correct me on the terms for Directv. I can understand the the Tivo part for the S3 since you pay the cost of the box and you OWN the box and just pay a small monthly fee to continue the service. Is directv cheaper then cable after it's all said and done, when comparing apples to apples? Please chime in and let me know your opinion.
     
  2. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    mburnno,

    I don't remember the last time someone said that they paid $299 for an HR20. New subscribers are getting amazing deals on the hardware and getting huge discounts on the programming packages. The complaint from the old-timers is that often it seems that the newbies are getting the really great deals. Here are the steps.

    Whether it is leased or owned, every satellite or cable receiver has a limited lifespan. Someday we can bet that there will be yet another new band or technology that will require new hardware. It may be as simple as 1080p coming one day.

    To me technology is like Archie Bunker described beer:

    "Beer: you can't buy it. You can only rent it."

    I am going to pay a $4.99 a month receiver fee either way. I don't care whether they call it a mirroring fee or a lease fee. The thing I don't want to do is buy the receiver and then buy another box and then pay two subscription.

    Check out the HD Programming to see what channels you can get and the price. For me there is no one else offering that many HD channels regardless of price. And the price is good.

    Good luck with your decision! The good part is that you have lots of options to consider.

    - Craig
     
  3. RS4

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    Of course what you conveniently forgot to tell the op is that he must agree to a 2-year commitment without being able to even try out the box, and that the cost for just trying it could be $299.99. And people say you guys don't speak half truths? :confused:
     
  4. Scott D

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    Hear, hear!!! Ain't that the truth!! :up:
     
  5. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    RS4,

    I included a link to a full page of detailed steps if anyone was interested: Here are the steps.

    It begins with a number of key facts including:

    Adding new equipment requires a 2 year contract commitment.

    Instead of giving a page of details, I gave the link if anyone was interested. The 2-year commitment was clearly noted. How is that a half-truth?

    - Craig
     
  6. RS4

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    Craig, I'm glad you do that, but I sorta think of that as being the fine print - yeah, I'll read it if I get time. And, I'm sure there are many others who do the same thing.
     
  7. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    RS,

    It is not fine print. My note about the 2-year commitment is in italics at the beginning in hopes that it will not be lost at the end. The note right next to it makes it clear that you will not own the HR20 but lease it. Another note makes it clear that you will have to allow DIRECTV to come do the installation.

    You said that I had told a half-truth. Someone who tells half-truths is the worst kind of liar. I did not lie. I did not tell half truths.

    Before accusing me, you did not take a moment to see if I had in fact told the truth.

    It turns out your accusation against me was false.

    What do you think is appropriate to do when you realize that you made a false accusation against another person?

    - Craig
     
  8. forecheck

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    A friend signed up a month ago, and the best he could do was the HR20 for $99. They offered a standard DVR or HD receiver w/o DVR for free, but not the HR20
     
  9. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    They almost never just offer the deal. :( But if you know what to do, you can get the better deal.

    Don't forget the new subscriber $100 discount and the $50+$50 referral discounts.

    - Craig
     
  10. jimb726

    jimb726 New Member

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    If he was brand new I would say that getting 200 dollars off is a pretty good start dont you think? And on top of that they were going to throw an additional receiver. Not a bad way to begin the relationship at all.
     
  11. forecheck

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    I agree, and he agreed too and took the deal, and was not unhappy with it at all as a new customer. Of course, as a football fan, the Sunday Ticket deal he got too added to his happiness.

    BTW, I got my HR20 for $108 minus $100 in credit back in March, so no complaints from me either.
     
  12. RS4

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    Craig my man (or should I call you the HR20 Crusader?),

    You didn't understand my reply. I was telling you that having that link (instead of explaining theses couple of big issues) is the same thing as fine print. Folks might read it, but I doubt it.

    What is your mission anyway - are you getting commissions on each former Tivo user? How about sharing the rewards with the group? :)
     
  13. MisterEd

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    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2182888,00.asp - Paragraph 4 :D

     
  14. milominderbinder

    milominderbinder New Member

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    RS,

    Wouldn't you say that the fact that the HR20 is leased, not owned, unless you pay $749 is a key fact as well? Plus you will have to let DIRECTV come for the HR20 install. I told all three truths because all three of these have been deal-breakers for others. People deserve to know the full truth, not a third of it. :)

    - Craig
     
  15. postnobills

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    Craig-
    I doubt you are an "astroturfer" like those mentioned in the PCMag article that MrEd linked to, but even if you are, I don't care, because your posts on how to "negotiate" with the DTV folks just saved me a couple of hundred dollars now that I have decided to take the plunge and upgrade my equipment to greet the arrival of MPEG4. I don't care what your motives are; but I do appreciate the service you are providing here, so thank-you!

    (I do still worry, however, that the family and I are going to sorely miss our beloved Tivo units!)
     
  16. RS4

    RS4 New Member

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    Craig,

    It's okay, bud. Now that I've read the article mentioned above, I have a clearer picture of your mission. Would you prefer we address you as "SP" for sock puppet or perhaps "AST" for astroturfing? :D I knew there was something 'special' about you - now I know what it is.

    Good luck, man - keep selling those boxes - probably keeps the bread on the table!!
     
  17. sjberra

    sjberra New Member

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    Funny got a service commitment also when I installed a new h10-250
     
  18. HiDefGator

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    Try getting a new Tivo without a commitment. Not sure how DTV is any different.
     
  19. Scott D

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    I did back when. Twice. How did I do that, you may ask? It's because TiVo is the ultimate in DVR technology. They don't have to lock you into a commitment simply because of the fact you wouldn't want to leave anyway. Simply a great receiver hands down. However, with the HR20, it's somewhat a dumbed down version of TiVo. Bad programming. Yeah, it pretty much has all the features the TiVo has except the HR20 is limited and last I heard, very unstable. Kind of reminds me of trial software. You want full functionality of it, then you must first buy it. Or in this case, sign up for a 2 year agreement that you will not leave them. Sounds very suspicious to me! :eek:
     

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