HR10-250 and MPEG4; Upgrade Offer

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Oct 18, 2007 #781 of 1693
    bonscott87

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    You still don't get that you and your 2000 friends just don't count against 16.5 million subs. DirecTV loves you since you're still paying your bill. The *only* message they will listen to is if you and 250,000 other people all dropped DirecTV in the same month and all stated Tivo was the reason. Other then that they don't notice you and they don't care.

    But hey, be the trooper and take one for the team. DirecTV will still gladly accept your money every month. :D
     
  2. Oct 18, 2007 #782 of 1693
    toneman

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    FWIW--I just asked the rep that I was shopping around to see which provider could give me the best deal since my D* 2-year contract had recently expired, and that I was willing to stick w/ D* depending on what kind of deal she could give me (I never once even used the word "cancel"...well technically I did have to use that word once, in order for the IVR to transfer me to retention--LOL!).

    As far as installation times go--I called in yesterday (Wednesday) evening, and was given an install date/time of tomorrow (Friday) between 12-5 pm...I'm hoping that it doesn't rain (forecast is for rain that day)...or at least not during that part of the day when the installer is to come out to my place.
     
  3. Oct 18, 2007 #783 of 1693
    toneman

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    Thank you for clarifying what I was trying to say/get across! :)

    Will I need two (sets) of diplexers--one for the HR10-250 and one for the HR20? Maybe I'm mistaken, but your reply sorta insinuates that a diplexer may not be needed for the HR20; I'm not necessarily saying that you're right or wrong...just looking for clarification so that I'll know what to expect/ask when the installer comes out to install the new dish.

    Thanks!
     
  4. Oct 18, 2007 #784 of 1693
    toneman

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    Anyone know if there is any significant/practical difference between the 100 and 700, as far as watching D* regular programming is concerned? I was told that the 700 offers interactive features but other than that, both models are essentially the same as far as standard features/storage capacity go; I guess what I'm trying to ask is, would I be missing out on anything of significance if I wind up w/ a 100 vs. a 700?
     
  5. Oct 18, 2007 #785 of 1693
    Anubys

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    I honestly do not believe the HR20 to be inferior to the HR10...it's better in many ways...if they add the Dual Live Buffer, the Tivo would have no leg to stand on...
     
  6. Oct 18, 2007 #786 of 1693
    dswallow

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    You will need to run a separate line to the HR20 if you want an OTA antenna input, otherwise you'll be interfering with satellite signals the HR20 would otherwise be using from the Ka-band satellites.

    If you have the HR10 and HR20 in the same place, just diplex the OTA signal over one or two of those lines and use one of them for the HR20's antenna input.

    You'll need one diplexer on each end of the cable. If you're going to feel the HR10 and HR20 from the same OTA signal, you can just use a splitter after the diplexer on the receiver end. Or since the HR10 would have two inputs you could diplex the OTA signal over both of them and have one go to the HR10 and the other to the HR20's antenna input.
     
  7. Oct 18, 2007 #787 of 1693
    Anubys

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    seems everyone is getting the 100s...here's a summary of the difference (thanks to BMoreRavens on DBStalk )

    The -100 has a 20GB larger hard drive.

    The -100 has a digital coaxial and digital optical. The -700 only has the digital optical.

    The -700 has a internal RF antenna and the -100 has a external RF antenna.

    The -700 receives software updates first. (normal 3 to 5 weeks before)
     
  8. Oct 18, 2007 #788 of 1693
    hauntedsoul

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    I am down with that!!! NO 2nd best!
     
  9. Oct 18, 2007 #789 of 1693
    TivoPete1

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    I am in Southern California and have been a DTV subsrciber for many years. My current subscription package inlcudes both local (West Coast) and East Coast Network stations. Before I play the "threaten to cancel" card with DTV because of continuing issues over problems caused by the 6.3 software upgrade, I was curious if DTV still offers this option or do I risk losing this feature should I want to come back to DTV later?
     
  10. Oct 18, 2007 #790 of 1693
    terpfan1980

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    Most likely you'd lose the distant network channels and have local stations only.
     
  11. Oct 18, 2007 #791 of 1693
    newsposter

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    you are assuming no multiswitch use correct? I dont diplex but for the benefit of others clarification would be in order. I thought if a M/S is introduced into the mix, diplexing was a no no. Or is it just that you diplex coming out of the MS and to the receiver?
     
  12. Oct 18, 2007 #792 of 1693
    jkrell

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    I hate to give up TiVo as I really like the interface and I am a shareholder too. But I think it is bunk that I will be missing the MP4 HD channels. So I am thinking about (a) switching to cable and getting a couple of the S3 HD TiVos or (b) upgrading to a couple HR20s (for no more than $20 of course) and keeping my HR10-250s. One of the HR10-250s will go to a bedroom so my wife can still have the TiVo interface that she loves.

    On the other one, I am wondering... can I cancel service to it and still use it as an OTA HD DVR? It would be cool to throw it somewhere and use it to backup all our network season passes. Right now I use an SD TiVo for that and I hate having to watch shows in SD once in a while.

    So, the question is can you use the HR10-250 solely as an OTA DVR w/o DirecTV?
     
  13. Oct 18, 2007 #793 of 1693
    pendragn

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    It gets the guide data from DirecTV so at the very least you'll lose that. I don't know if you'd be able to use it for timed recordings or not.

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  14. Oct 18, 2007 #794 of 1693
    newsposter

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    definitely no sorry. But i do 'think' you can rewind and FF in the 30 minute buffer. You must be subbed to do any recording whatsoever.

    Also you must enter the channels manually like 67-1 (i think), yes I think a lot :)
     
  15. Oct 18, 2007 #795 of 1693
    dswallow

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    You'd diplex on the cable after the multiswitch.

    Oh, and you know I meant to talk about the new SWM -- single wire module -- that DirecTV is still testing out. It can coexist with OTA antenna signals and uses a single coax to support 5 or 8 different tuners (depending on the SWM size). Unfortunately you can't just order one yet.
     
  16. Oct 19, 2007 #796 of 1693
    jkrell

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    So that's how they get you here -- 2 year minimum and they know you will move the HR10 to another room and pay another $5 per month for essentially nothing. You have to sit back and admire this business model...

    I guess I could sell it on eBay...
     
  17. Oct 19, 2007 #797 of 1693
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    So the installer came today and everything went smoothly .. so I thought. Tonight I try to watch TNT, but it's unwatchable with artifacting, skipping etc. The other channels look ok. I go to the Satellite Test page on the HR20 and the following info shows on the 1-32 transpoder on the 101 satellite

    Most everything is 95+ except
    4: 42
    12:32
    20:42
    26:0

    I assume that's where the problem lies? Should I call DTV or is this something I can fix myself?

    Thanks.
     
  18. Oct 19, 2007 #798 of 1693
    bonscott87

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    You *can* diplex but only after the multiswitch but not on any lines going to the HR20 or any other MPEG4 receiver. These need a "home run" OTA line directly do them.

    But you could diplex in OTA to any lines going to an HR10-250 or other OTA capable receiver.
     
  19. Oct 19, 2007 #799 of 1693
    RS4

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    You can get technical help for the HR20 at dbstalk.com I would suggest looking there in addition to here.
     
  20. Oct 19, 2007 #800 of 1693
    toneman

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    Dang, I didn't know about that one caveat...thanks for the timely post! In that case, diplexing won't do me much good since I have both an HR20 (arriving today) and an HR10-250 that I want to feed OTA signals to. Guess I'll either have to split the OTA signal from the antenna so that I can run a second OTA line (or diplex this second OTA line so that I won't have to physically install another long cable run to the HR10-250), or buy a second OTA antenna so that each receiver gets its own dedicated home run OTA line.

    Speaking of splitters--what kind of splitter is required to split the OTA signal w/o any significant loss of signal strength/quality?

    And yes, I realize that D* offers HD locals in my area but I have my reasons why I would prefer to have an OTA line connected to my HR20... ;)
     

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