HR10-250 and MPEG4; Upgrade Offer

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Sep 13, 2007 #421 of 1693
    charlie_eberly

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    Well, the installer showed up on time and knocked out the install in a couple hours. Not bad for a new AT9 install, swapping the switch and setting up 3 HR20's. This was the first time I was actually pleased with a visit from a DTV installer. After all the DVR's were activated and the installer left, I checked online and then called DTV to confirm. No new committment. Like I said before, I was not too worried about this anyway but I know a lot of you are so I wanted to check back and say that the so called "required" upgrades do not give you an automatic new committment.

    My initial impressions of the HR20 are not bad. Yes it is different. It will take some getting used to but it seems OK with me. My 7 year old son has already learned how to watch what he wants and set up recordings so it can't be that bad. Time will tell if it does what we ask of it but I think most people that don't like it were just too used to how to do things with there HR10. Just my opinion.

    So overall I am very happy. 3 New HR20's (all -700's BTW), AT9 install and a multiswitch swap all at no cost to me. Painless install. I still have my 3 HR10's just in case and I did not have to play CSR roulette. They called me and asked me to do this. I really can't ask for more.

    It may be beneficial to all of you that can't wait to swap - to wait for DTV to call you. It worked for me.
     
  2. Sep 13, 2007 #422 of 1693
    videoi

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    Got my HR20-700 the other day (nightmare of an install, but that's another issue). Bought a Seagate Freeagent Pro 750GB external sata drive. Last night, went to connect it to the HR20.

    Powered the drive up, plugged it in to the DVR, and then reset the DVR (tried using the reset button, pulled the power plug, and also tried "reset" from the menu). Couldn't get the DVR to recognize the new drive (I know this because a recording that I had previously done was still available).

    Any suggestions?

    Ira
     
  3. Sep 13, 2007 #423 of 1693
    MisterEd

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    Suggstion, yes, ask the question here: http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=112 that is the HR20 support forum. Hpwever it sounds like a bad drive or eSata cable.



     
  4. Sep 14, 2007 #424 of 1693
    milominderbinder

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    If you can see 101-119 you can see 103.

    Here are the steps to the upgrade:

    Getting a Good Deal on an HR20

    If you are going to do it, do it before the new HD channels come on line. What reason will they have to give deals when they are slammed next week?

    - Craig
     
  5. Sep 14, 2007 #425 of 1693
    SpankyInChicago

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    FYI - I cancelled my order.

    Don't want to be stuck with this retarded company for two more years. Don't want to lose suggestions. Don't want a 50 SP limit. Don't want two boxes at each TV.
     
  6. Sep 14, 2007 #426 of 1693
    Eben

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    Thanks for the link. However, the sat at 99 is the one that's borderline at the current dish location. I'm going to wait until Oct. 8/9 for the sun to verify where I can put the new dish (fingers crossed that current location will work).
     
  7. Sep 14, 2007 #427 of 1693
    Billy66

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    Don't want any new HD Channels....

    Seriously, didn't you know any of these things on the 5th when you ordered?
     
  8. Sep 14, 2007 #428 of 1693
    dswallow

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    You're never stuck with them for more time. You can always cancel. You simply will be subject to a prorated cancellation fee of $300... basically $12.50/month for every month left on your commitment.

    It's really not a big deal. Figure it's a no-brainer that you'd stick around for at least 5 or 6 months just deciding if you liked the equipment and new HD programming, plus time to figure out an alternative. That'd leave you with only 18 months commitment remaining, which would be a $225 penalty if you then canceled.

    And maybe you'd like it or at least not totally hate it and stay longer.

    It's not a lot different than investing in a piece of equipment that'd become unusable if you canceled service.

    Though otherwise I do agree with you on the limitations of their equipment.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2007 #429 of 1693
    SpankyInChicago

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    Sorry my change of mind seems to have upset you.

    WTF?

    I did know those things going in, but the deal was a good one so I took it. Upon further consideration, I changed my mind. Perhaps I should have "stayed the course."

    I don't "need" the HD channels right now. I am working 80 hour weeks at this point. I am going to hold off and see what ever comes of the Comcast / Tivo box and maybe even the CableCard MCEs.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2007 #430 of 1693
    Billy66

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

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    Oh it didn't upset me a bit Spanky, I was just wondering because it wasn't that long ago. Your path is completely valid IMHO. Didn't mean to imply otherwise.
     
  11. Sep 14, 2007 #431 of 1693
    RS4

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    You're not stuck with the company; that's for sure, however you are rewarding a company for a lousy product. To my way of thinking, DirecTV is becoming a bully - 'you don't like our products, you're SOL, you still owe us the $300 (or whatever is left)'. Why on earth would anyone sign up for a 'deal' like that is beyond me. :confused:
     
  12. Sep 14, 2007 #432 of 1693
    Knives of Ice

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    i got a free new hd dvr, a free hd box, hbo/showtime for 3 months and $15 per month credit to cover hd channel fees and dvr service. good deal.

    if anyone is interested in buying my hr10-250 just pm me i have the original box, and all manuals.
     
  13. Sep 14, 2007 #433 of 1693
    jenfavre

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    I was painlessly offered a free box, free dish, free shipping, free install and NO contract extension. I asked twice if I would be forced to extend my contract and was told no. After reading these stories, I'm pretty leery. But they're coming the 27th. I'll call 10 times between now and then to confirm everything.
     
  14. Sep 14, 2007 #434 of 1693
    bsgoren

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    I haven't posted here in a while, but my wife and I have been thinking of making the switch from the HR10 to the HR20 DirecTV HD-DVR (not that we really want to give up our beloved HD-TiVo); we just don't know if it would be better to do it now or wait until all the new D*TV MPEG-4 HD channels are actually online, and then make the switch (probably some time early '08).

    Anyone think D*TV will be making even "better" offers to current HR10 customers to switch after they go live with their new MPEG-4 HD lineup? :confused:


    What are your thoughts? :confused: Thanks.

    btw -- we definitely want more HD, and it appears that the only way to get all these great HD channels from D*TV is to eventually make the switch to D*TV's MPEG-4 unit; I was just hoping we could wait until they come out with a better, improved HD DVR (rather than the HR20). :rolleyes:
     
  15. Sep 15, 2007 #435 of 1693
    RS4

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    I believe that sometime in the first quarter of next year will be a key decision point for DirecTV. By then, they will have a good idea of how many Tivo households are left that have not gotten one of the non-Tivo boxes. If existing Tivo households don't convert during the next quarter, then I think it will be a sign of how many folks like me don't want to use a product (especially with a 2-year commitment) that we will not be happy with.

    Tivo and DirecTV have announced that they are upgrading the existing Series 2 DTivo boxes, so we know the two companies are once again talking with each other. They have made quite a bit of fanfare announcing the changes. For a box that hasn't been made for some time, that is surprising to me. I take it as a sign that the two companies are at least talking about a new DTivo box.

    So, I feel that we will know something by the end of the first quarter of next year. - either an announcement of a new DTivo or perhaps a 'no extended commitment period' (which I am starting to see more of). Then, I'll make up my mind on what I'm going to do.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2007 #436 of 1693
    bsgoren

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    Thanks, but that doesn't address the situation of ALL the new HD channels that D*TV will be offering in the 4th Qtr., '07 on their MPEG-4 system using their own HD-DVR (HR20 box). These HD channels cannot be received on any box still on the old MPEG-2 system (including the HR10 HD DirecTiVo). :confused:

    This would mean that D*TV and TiVo would have to come out with a compatible MPEG-4 HD DirecTiVo box, which if that actually comes to fruition, would be well into the future (and those of us not switching to the D*TV HD-DVR MPEG-4 box would be missing out on all those new HD channels for a very long time). :(
     
  17. Sep 15, 2007 #437 of 1693
    dswallow

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    Technically it could be done with the Series3 or TiVoHD products.

    DirecTV previously announced a USB-connected tuner device to be available for Windows Vista Media Center use. With a driver developed for the Series3 or TiVoHD, the same device could be plugged in the TiVo receiver and the DirecTV datastream from the connected tuners could be processed by the receiver.

    This would eliminate the need for hardware development, since presumably that hardware is already developed by DirecTV. It would require only a driver be developed and associated changes in the TiVo receiver software to support use of such a device/driver.
     
  18. Sep 15, 2007 #438 of 1693
    RS4

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    Sorry - I read your statement 'I was just hoping we could wait until they come out with a better, improved HD DVR (rather than the HR20)' as you would be willing to wait for a new product that is Tivo branded.

    I see a lot of channels coming down the road, but there are less then a handful that I would even watch since I already get the networks OTA, so I'm in no hurry to rush into a product that I don't think I will like. In my mind, looking at an additional 5 to 8 channels with a box I don't want isn't worth the agony, especially if it requires a 2-yr commitment.
     
  19. Sep 15, 2007 #439 of 1693
    MisterEd

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    Agree 100% ... actually there are 3 in the announced group I MIGHT watch occasionally. 90% of my viewing is OTA networks (I just don't have the time to channel surf).
     
  20. Sep 15, 2007 #440 of 1693
    milominderbinder

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    If all you do is watch OTA why do you pay for satellite? A standalone TiVo subsription would be way cheaper...

    - Craig
     

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