Advertisements Ahh.... So back to the harping on the HR10-250 again with Robert and Value Electronics... Just because you and some others had a bad experience...... negates the 100's if not thousands of transactions that went on (and still go on today) without a hitch. And "won't reveal their sources".... your kidding me right? I seemed to be a "tad" right on the HR20... just a bit... Mid August... When I said it back in June... But I guess it doesn't count as a release........ And let's see... based on my latest updates to the update...... I guess "updates" to state that things are delayed and not comming out when previous thought they would come out... I guess those don't count on being correct either.... Dang I can't wait for the TiVo Series 3 to come..... I really can't... More so to see the threads that follow it's release then for the product it self.