HR10-250 6.3 Update; Confirmation and Release Notes

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. Sep 8, 2006 #81 of 861
    ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Yes... but not the message you are looking for.

    There is no message telling you: Hey... I have the software, and you have been authorized for the unit to install it.

    The assumption is made that your phone line is connected 24/7 and makes it normal nightly call.

    EVERYONE, will "technically" receive the update at the same time... it will be sitting in a alternative partition on the hard drive on the unit. Then via the Phone Call, and what ever validation goes on on the other end... your unit gets the okay to switch to that alternative software partition
     
  2. Sep 8, 2006 #82 of 861
    vtfan99

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    I can go into my TVs service menu and tweak the picture slightly for each format. If I'm viewing SD stuff with 480i, I can make it look little better without affecting the HD 720p/1080i stuff, which its currently "tweaked" for. :D
     
  3. Sep 8, 2006 #83 of 861
    Sir_winealot

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    I wonder how many people will be posting 'the upgrade killed my hard drive!'??

    Odds are that this new DL will uncover some that are on their way out ...and will ultimately get blamed for this.
     
  4. Sep 8, 2006 #84 of 861
    AstroDad

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    Another thanks to Earl for sticking in there for the believers.

    Earl, would it be possible to post the release notes here? I cannot access dbstalk from work :(

    If i remember correctly, don't we get a Pending Restart message on the Daily Call screen once the box has been authorized and can manually restart the box to get the update?
     
  5. Sep 8, 2006 #85 of 861
    chadly25

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    gottcha. I forgot about that. All of the TV's we sell now can change aspect ration of 1080 and 720 material as if it were 480. Thanx
     
  6. Sep 8, 2006 #86 of 861
    newsposter

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    out of curiousity, is the only reason a call is required to ensure a legal sub?

    Wonderful news if this negates the need for a C/D T/D list! Wife will be VERY happy as will I.
     
  7. Sep 8, 2006 #87 of 861
    chadly25

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    I've calibrated many televisions in my isf days but I can't say I've seen a television you could adjust in that way. I have seen where you can adjust all of the individual inputs, but I have yet to see where you can adjust different formats on one input (or are you using two different inputs one composite and one HD). What kind of television are you using?
     
  8. Sep 8, 2006 #88 of 861
    ebonovic

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    Tinley...

    My guess is the call has to do more with the way the TiVo software updates simply work. They pull all the files first, then "analyze" the update, then the call sends a CRC or something like that to a server...

    Validates it matches, then you are good to go..

    (and seriously, that is just a guess... I don't know how the inner workings of the software update works)
     
  9. Sep 8, 2006 #89 of 861
    cheer

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    Actually if you really wanna be technical, it won't be on the alternate partition set until the upgrade is authorized and triggered. :)
     
  10. Sep 8, 2006 #90 of 861
    dr_mal

    dr_mal It's CWS time

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    If it holds to past patterns, yes, that's true, but the box will automatically restart at 2 or 3 am.

    If you see that message in your daily call screen prior to the reboot, yes, you can manually reboot the box to install the new software.
     
  11. Sep 8, 2006 #91 of 861
    cheer

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    It's just a lot easier to control things this way. But they can also control who actually downloads the slices as well.

    As the slices are downloaded from sat, the Tivo decrypts them (if needed) and loads them into MFS. Once authorization is received via the daily call, it updates a value in MFS to the new version and puts the box in a pending restart state; the box then reboots at 2 AM or whatever.

    When the box reboots, it sees that the new version code in MFS isn't the active one. It checks to see if upgradesoftware is set to false and, if not, triggers the installation of the new code.

    For a much more thorough understanding, go to the other place and check out /forum/showthread.php?t=35483. Scroll down to post #12; ADH has (in his usual fashion) written an extremely detailed description/analysis of the process. (You can ignore much of the hacking-related portions as they're out of date, but the overall process hasn't really changed.)
     
  12. Sep 8, 2006 #92 of 861
    fasTLane

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    My unit has been self tuning during the overnite to the DTV channel a lot lately. Is this related to the download or something else entirely?
     
  13. Sep 8, 2006 #93 of 861
    vaporware

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    Now go play with your shoe collection. ;)
     
  14. Sep 8, 2006 #94 of 861
    chadly25

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    I used to love seeing the "pending restart" message. makes you feel like a kid at christmas when you know you are getting an update.
     
  15. Sep 8, 2006 #95 of 861
    Paperboy2003

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    What? No posts from AbFab?

    Here's to hoping it crashes his hard drive...

    Thanks Earl
     
  16. Sep 8, 2006 #96 of 861
    vtfan99

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    I have a Sony KDF-E50A10. When I'm in the service menu, certain values change depending upon the format of the source material. It appears that 720p/1080i use one set of values while 480i/480p use a different set. I must say that I'm pretty new to this stuff, so this is by no means a guaranteed fact...nor is it optimally calibrated. Just some info I picked up over at avsforum.
     
  17. Sep 8, 2006 #97 of 861
    chadly25

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    Thanks for the info. I am going to check the new Sony televisions to see how then new engines operate. I usually change my Sencore unit to 480i/p 720p and 1080i just to verify I am close to D65 on all formats but I didn't know you could adjust them individually.
     
  18. Sep 8, 2006 #98 of 861
    smimi10

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    Thanks for the update, Earl. I appreciate your efforts with this.

    Mike
     
  19. Sep 8, 2006 #99 of 861
    rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    It happens every night. It is called the service download.
     
  20. Sep 8, 2006 #100 of 861
    Cudahy

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    Cudahy,...
    I've been following this upgrade thread for the past month although the only problem we have with our HDtivo is the sporadic 1 second blackouts. Will the greater speed affect that?
     

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