HP partners with TiVo to bring add on to WHS

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  1. atomarchio

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    For the cost of a new HP Home Server, I can live with my LX195 if that's what I have to do. Hopefully, someone can show me how to do this.
     
  2. ellinj

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    Can this device do any transcoding similar to tivo desktop plus?
     
  3. Johncv

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    How does this bypass the copy protection carp that prevent transfer of shows?
     
  4. ellinj

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    I would imagine that it can't
     
  5. tomm1079

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    This is pretty much the same thing and not limited to what WHS you have:

    http://www.whsplus.com/2009/04/11/tivo-publisher-for-windows-home-server/

    I take that back. This just sends to the tivo...does not receive back.
     
  6. mattack

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    Darn, OK, so it's still "pull". One of the earlier articles made me think/hope that you could, on the Tivo itself, say copy to the server.

    Seems very very expensive for what we can do already with third party tools. Though admittedly, being able to just plop more hard drives in is very cool..
     
  7. TriBruin

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    But if you already have an HP MediaSmart Server, it costs nothing. I have installed it, and, well, it works. I hope to see improvements (Autotransfers, please!) But at least it is an option.
     
  8. Bsteenson

    Bsteenson TiVo is no BS

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    I'm not sure why this is a big deal.

    PyTiVo, which is free, will let you stream just about any video file format from any computer to all the TiVo's in your house that are connected to your home network.

    kmttg, which is also free, will let you pull programs from TiVo, cut commercials automatically and even transcode them to different format for viewing on computer or portable device.

    There are also pyTiVo scripts available which will push content automatically from a "watched" folder on your computer to your TiVo.
     
  9. ZeoTiVo

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    yep - that is what I am looking for. The early galleon had this ability via an HME app as it simply got the now playing list from all TiVo DVRs in the house = presented the list in hme app and then you picked the show and then galleon running on your PC initiated the pull from the TiVo for you. Kind of cool but cumbersome and then when HME public API work was abandoned :mad: there was no way to streamline the concept further.
     
  10. jmpage2

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    I've used PyTiVo and kmttg in the past. However setting it up takes a bit of time, compared to this add-in, which takes about 3 seconds to install and set up.

    It's just another option for those who don't need extra storage or some archiving capability but don't want to set multiple applications and scripts up on a computer in their house.
     
  11. ZeoTiVo

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    tha tis the idea of WHS alright. :)
     
  12. MichaelK

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    I don't think anyone would honestly sell a WHS box as an accessory to a tivo. But for people that already have it for it's other uses it's a nice add-on. (not great but nice).

    A WHS would be just another place to run the 3rd party tools on (people run pytivo or tivo desktop on them already)- but now there's another tool for the WHS as an option.
     
  13. MichaelK

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    it's only a "big deal" if one already has a WHS (and even then only for a subset of the owners).

    It's no different than the iphone remote app for the tivo's. It's no big deal to me I dont own an iphone. If I did have an iphone i think i'd likely prefer my harmony or tivo penaut remotes so i could 'feel' my way around the buttons and not have to look for where to touch the screen (I had an old touchscreen remote and went to the harmony with buttons for that reason). I doubt anyone is buying an iphone just to control their tivo's. But if you have an iphone or are considering an iphone it's one more nice possibility to have at your fingers.
     
  14. mattack

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    Actually, I think you're missing a point about the iPhone remote apps. They "type" for you. (By manually moving around the onscreen keyboard.) I don't use one, but for a skanky hack, they're pretty cool.
     
  15. jdmass

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    I coincidentally just picked up a HP Mediasmart Server EX495 with 2 1.5TB drives a couple of weeks ago, so I was very happy to see this announcement.

    The add-in seems to work exactly as advertised. I've pulled a bunch of programs from both of my Tivos. It doesn't really add any new functionality over other transfer solutions other than a bit of convenience, if you happen to have an hp server.

    I'm happy because I continually had problems with timeouts to my windows 7 pc with Tivodesktop. Now I can upload reliably and free up space on my wife's non-upgraded TivoHD.

    Of course, to view any of the content on the server requires transferring back to the Tivo just like with Tivo Desktop -- sure would be nice if they could support streaming.
     
  16. MichaelK

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    I'm not knocking the iphone app at all- it's pretty cool. But like i said- everyone wouldn't see a use in it (you don't use it either for example) . And no one is likely buying an iphone JUST because you can use it to type on your tivo.

    so just like there's no reason to knock the iphone app there's no reason to know the whs 'app'. Each have their users and fan base. They aren't a magic answer for all.
     
  17. dcbarry

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    Presumably, this will be worthless for the very large number of Tivo Series3 / HD users where the cable company blocks transfers (google CCI byte) on nearly every channel.
     
  18. dianebrat

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    Your use of the word "most" is misguided, as is the category of "very large numbers"
    TWC is one of the few overly aggressive cablecos out there doing this, Comcast straddles the line, and FiOS is just a joy.
    Maybe worthless to you, but a nice feature for a great number of users.

    Diane
     
  19. hughvh

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    Just to confirm. The Mediasmart does not support streaming of archived shows back to the TiVo? I'm getting conflicting info after I do a search.

    Thanks!
     
  20. dianebrat

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    It doesn't stream them, it presents them as if they were on another Tivo in the house and you need to transfer them, you can start watching after the transfer has begun.

    Diane
     

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