How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Let's just say, if you paid for lifetime service when it was new, then by TiVo's standards, you've already gotten your money's worth.

    Hard drive failure is the most likely, followed by power supply failure, IMHO.
     
  2. Puppy76

    Puppy76 Well-Known Member

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    The hard drive is probably what's going to die first, and then the fan. Both are replaceable though-not officially, but there's all kinds of info on here about doing that.

    There are a lot of people still running Series 1s even from the 90's, so I wouldn't worry too much. At worst you can replace the hard drive at some point (or use the fact that you currently have service to get a cheaper price on lifetime on an HD unit :) )
     
  3. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    I did that. I am trying to decide about ending series 2 service. I will miss the interconnectivity between the two TiVos. Someone said their 'clock' lost 10 minutes after a year.
     
  4. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    That type of report only comes from a unit that is not being allowed to connect to the service regularly. You can still connect even if you don't have service so that the clock can be set.
     
  5. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    My TiVos are that old and work fine. Mind you I got them second hand, not knowing how previous owners have use, abused, or not used them. My first 240 likely wasn't used much, because it came to me in spring 2005 with 3.2 (upgraded to 160GB drive for Live 8 concert), and it has been used continuously fine until fall 08, powered through a UPS. I can't say about my 140, except I got it with a blown PSU I replaced with my spare parts 140.

    That all said, the most common failure is the HDD which is an easy fix (although you may lose recordings), the PSU is second, by replacing it, or that one capacitor that always fails. Last would be motherboard failure, which nothing can be done for.
     
  6. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    If an S2 Tivo doesn't have a subscription, but you are still using it for manual recordings, connecting to reset a drifting clock will instantly end the ability to manually record. On the other hand, if the Tivo knows that it's sub is canceled and can't manually record, the clock really doesn't serve a purpose so there's no need to reset it.
     
  7. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Now I am confused! My S2 is now disconnected from phone and internet. It is set up for several repeated manual recordings. e.g.: M-F, Sa, Su, Wd

    I think you are saying that if I reconnect it to the internet some time after the subscription for it has run out, it will be ZAPPED?!?

    By manually recording, I mean the only info it has is:
    once/repeated M-F/Mo/Tu/... Chnl# StartTime EndTime
    pretty much like a VCR.
     
  8. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Every time a Tivo makes a connection, one of the things it does is check for the subscription status. If the sub has been canceled, all recording functions other than the live TV buffer will stop. The exceptions are the Toshiba and Pioneer units with DVD recorders because they have Tivo basic service and the vast majority of the old S1 models.
     
  9. Puppy76

    Puppy76 Well-Known Member

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    I think when I watch the update thing it actually says "Setting Clock" first and then "Checking service status" second :)
     
  10. fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    I have an S2 which still can record manually over a year after its service was discontinued because I didn't let it connect before service was cancelled. I wouldn't trust the timing for pulling the plug to get the clock reset without updating the service status. It lost 10 minutes after a year.
     
  11. timckelley

    timckelley run of the mill TCFer

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    I suppose in such situation then, you have to once in awhile (every few months?) Go in an adjust all your manual repeating recordings to compensate for the drift.

    I guess you could always keep a note taped to your TiVo that says how many minutes off the clock is, and then whenever you schedule new manual recordings, you build in the offset from your note.

    This is a neat trick for getting free use out of an S2.
     
  12. twey

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    I finally decide to change my TiVo S1 setup to accept my CM-7000 DTV converter today (with wife’s approval). I wasn’t sure I want to do that because both Comcast and U-verse has few OTA channels remapped in S.F. bay area, and happens one of them is the channel we frequently record.

    I was surprise to find that there is a setting I never knew before in the guided setup. I set TiVo S1 to use cable box. I was intended to use either Comcast of U-verse as the carrier and manually record the missing channels. When I was in the carrier manual, there is a selection “Over the Air Only – Antenna” (in the cable box manual, that is right). Was it there before? Well, I pick the selection, made call and all the local channels are there at right place (almost). The long story short, the TiVo S1 does pick the AV input to get them from the DTV box (instead of the internal tuner). And, by using Pioneer code with IR blaster, the CM-7000 does change the channel. Is this something TiVo did to answer the S1 owner’s request? Or, just I was blinded when last time I try that on my Sony S1 a month ago? Anyway it is a much needed progress. Thanks, TiVo.

    Well, it is not perfect. Since TiVo only can set for the primary channels not the sub-channels, I never can record a sub-channel program. The TiVo refuse to take 3-digit code for change the channel as I can do with Comcast setting. All the selection above 68 is disallowed. Also, the channel lineup is not totally correct, yet. Few of the channels are not listed or listed wrong. I don’t thing I can blame TiVo yet since the DTV carriers are still moving around their service. I hope this will be correct went the dust settled.

    Now the CM-7000 with S-Video, auto-power on, and Cable-OTA setup. Long live the S1. Now you are in the age of digital TV . :D

    The side note: The guided setup finish just in one pass. Maybe I am just lucky or it been fixed when I was in sleep…
     
  13. realtoratlanta

    realtoratlanta Tivo User Since 2000

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    Hi Doug. Are you using the Infrared blaster with the Radio Shack Converter Box? Did the codes come from one of the Radio Shack Cable Box codes? I have a Tivo Series 1 with lifetime membership and happily have a cable lineup that matches my OTA channel lineup exactly. I am trying to decide which converter box will make this as simple as possible.

    Michael
     
  14. newskilz

    newskilz New Member

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    :) I ran into that a little while back also. I am with you about not seeing it there before, but definitely easier to setup. And for me all channels line up correctly.
     
  15. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    I have s S2 TiVo that works quite well (through the IR Blaster) with my Zenith DTT901 CECB. The Zenith, with its well ventilated metal case, runs 24/7 and remains cool. It is reassuring to be able to 'set it and forget it'.
     
  16. dbrashear

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    Don't suppose anyone's tried making an IR blaster that remaps? Seems like if the remote codes are known, a PIC could be programmed to DTRT.
     
  17. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    I kind of did for satellite. It receives a serial signal emulating a DSS receiver, and translates the channel number into keypad matrix closures for the OEM remote. Mind you I did it in an Atmel AT90S2313 with only 2K memory (also a limit of the demo version of Bascom AVR Basic Compiler I used).
    A modern Atmel or PIC with a proper dev platform will have more capacity to do actual translation.
     
  18. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

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    So, getting ready to get a converter box for my Series 2 TiVo (230-model).

    Which is the best and easiest option? APEX 502 and CM-7000 seem to be favored, are those still the best options? Are they both always-on or have auto-on?

    Does anyone know if this Insignia (Best Buy by LG apparently) works with TiVo and if it has auto on? Any equivalent with s-video output? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8854527&type=product&id=1209166340855

    Sorry, this thread is a little unwieldy to try and find info in. :)

    Thanks.
     
  19. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    check out this TiVo Support site: http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/310

    I have a CM 7000 on one of my Series 2 TiVos - it works fine.

    Good Luck,
     
  20. MickeS

    MickeS Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! Seems like I can just go ahead and get that one, gets good reviews at Amazon.
     

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