How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by 056557, Nov 24, 2007.

  1. jacooley42

    jacooley42 New Member

    May 29, 2008


    I'm new here. Is there a special TiVo person or group to contact to have channel lineup problems corrected, or do you just make the usual service call. Or might there be a forum thread that deals with lineup issues.

    My father-in-law just moved to a large senior community, and I was encouraged to see that TiVo had the senior community as one of its cable providers when the appropriate zip code was selected. However, the TiVo channel lineup bore no resemblance to the actual channel mapping of the senior community.
  2. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    You have to call a regular TiVo CSR for now.
  3. alutis

    alutis New Member

    Dec 27, 2008
    Has anyone blocked the offending channels on the Voom box? 2 of my three Voom boxes seem to handle this just fine but one is goofy and just kind of reset it self now and then...
  4. 1apus

    1apus New Member

    Dec 31, 2008
    Is it possible that the series 2 software can support both cable on the RF in and OTA converter box on RCA inputs at the same time? Just curious...
  5. pcbrew

    pcbrew Member

    Mar 14, 2008


    TiVo's do not support this officially. See this post by TiVoJerry on the matter.

    However, there is a workaround to enable this using cable + satellite in Guided Setup and telling the TiVo the ATSC converter box is a Dish tuner. See the Voom thread on how to do this.
    Since the S2DT does not support OTA or the converter boxes, you need to use this workaround for that box anyway.

    I can attest that this works for S2 (240), S2DT (649), and S2 Humax w/DVD (595) models.

    The Apex DT250 (available from BestBuy) was the box I used. I said it was a Hughes receiver since the remote codes match. I also found that the Insignia boxes from BestBuy do not work properly with this workaround.

    BTW, Someone posted remote codes for many of the boxes earlier in this thread.

    Access DTA1010D 10094
    Apex DT250 10098
    Artec T3A Pro 10100
    Cadence DTVC9 10097
    Channel Master CM-7000 10092
    Coship N9988T 10095
    Digital Stream DTX9000/DTX9950 UNSUPPORTED
    G.E. 22729 10102
    Insignia NS-DXA1 10090
    Lasonic LTA-260 10091
    Magnavox TB100MW9 10086
    Microgem MGMG2000 10096
    Philco TB100HH9 10101
    RCA DTA800 10087
    Sansonic FT-300A 10091
    Tivax STB-T9 10103
    Venturer STB7766G 10093
    Winegard RC-DT09 10099
    Zenith DTT900/DTT901 10090
  6. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    No. Single tuners only support two sources when one is Satellite.

    Dual Tuners (which do not support the DTA convertors for antenna), support dual sources when one is analog cable.

    In either case, you could fake the the DTA box as satellite, for the limited operation that gives.
  7. Jan 3, 2009 #847 of 943

    ronniejay New Member

    Nov 25, 2005
    Are you referring to the re-boot problem on certain channels using certain multiplexors? My voom boxes (3 of them) had this problem with 11-1 (CBS in Houston). I set voom to skip the channel. Since this problem would continue, and perhaps spread, I replaced my voom with a Samsung DTBH260F. I got it from Circuit City for $169, using free gift cards I had. It is now $101 there. I missed the price match time frame.

    Tvio does not support these as converter boxes, nor are coupon eligible.
  8. Jan 3, 2009 #848 of 943

    fivedvrs New Member

    Nov 23, 2005
    My Insignia box that I was using with my S2 now lockups on a regular basis. It used to only lockup on PBS but now it doesn't limit itself to PBS. I think it can't take being on 24/7.

    Not trying to go off topic. This was one of the first round of Insignia converter boxes.
  9. Jan 3, 2009 #849 of 943

    emeba New Member

    Jan 3, 2009
  10. Jan 3, 2009 #850 of 943

    bgiannes New Member

    Oct 26, 2006
    Orange, CA
    I have the full OTA digital box running with 9.3.2a ("a" being the OTA version) running for months! with the Insignia box from best buy without any probs ! sub channels and all

    since my HD crash i reloaded the tivo os, it wouldn't let me run the digital box setup?

    so i had to use the work around :(

    Has tivo disabled this funtion?


    There is a software bug with 9.3.2a they talk about the fix here.
  11. Jan 6, 2009 #851 of 943

    cia_viewer New Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    My Zenith DTT901 and IR Blaster have been working fine with my S2 TiVo 24/7 for several months. The Zenith DTT901 is designed with good ventilation.
  12. Jan 6, 2009 #852 of 943

    restart88 New Member

    Mar 9, 2002
    I did that with the Digital Stream and it actually worked better than my 540 box with the OTA software and the Zenith converter. If I'd directly key in an OTA channel it would go to ch 3 (PBS) instead, then if I hit page up it would go to the previously requested channel.

    I've since subscribed to local tier cable because they had a $10 a month for a year special, so now I finally get to use my 2nd tuner and love it. I think if I ever went back to OTA I'd have to get a Tivo HD unless I were really strapped for cash. It sure beats juggling Season Pass programming between 2 boxes!
  13. sololebron

    sololebron New Member

    Jan 29, 2009
    Quick shout.
    Great info from all you guys. Kudo's and thanks especially to Shawn95GT and Pcbrew.

    My 2 cents- After cancelling those bloody Comcast-cable pirates, and DishTV not an option technically, the following works with my S2DT. I can accomplish the following:
    1- watch TV just with DTV
    2- watch and record Tivo programs - <DVDR must be powered ON>
    3- burn to DVD Tivo-recorded programs
    4- burn to DVD any program tuned on the DTV box or tuned from Tivo tuner.
    5- watch any DVD I have.

    I used an inexpensive antenna (RCA ANT1450 MultiDirectional), sent coax to DTV box (Digital Stream DTX9950 from the Shack). OUT From DTV, plugged coax to my RF-in jack on DVDR (Lite-On LVW-5115GHC+), also out from DTV box I used A/V Cable (rwy) into my S2DT. Then ran A/V cable OUT of my S2DT into my DVDR. Connecting to TV (old analog GE spacemaker TV/VHS), A.) ran A/V Cable OUT of my DVDR plugged into TV; B.) ran coax out of DVDR to RF-in jack on TV.

    I then ran setup instructions from Shawn95GT below (dated 5/2/2007) as a satellite signal. (NOTE: the only difference on Satellite Box Brand, I used Tivo).

    Yes, There are limitations to this setup and yes you only can record 1 show to Tivo, etc., etc, But wow, if you don't need (sic), or want Cable or refuse to pay the bastards, don't have lots of time for watching TV, or only enjoy watching OTA, (24 my favorite_. Or NFL games on Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC this could be your solution.

    Hope this helps someone.

    Power to the people, let's save the Republic, kick the bastards out!!!
  14. timckelley

    timckelley run of the mill TCFer

    Oct 15, 2002
    When I called Time Warner about a month ago, they said they have no planned cuttoff of analog. He didn't say they won't ever do it, but that at this time, it's not on the schedule for doing it.

    However, I'm not sure whether to 100% believe him, because I didn't get the impression that the guy I was talking to was very knowledgable or confident. If anybody has any Time Warner update, I'd certainly be interested in it.
  15. Feb 1, 2009 #855 of 943

    Fl_Gulfer Tivo's R Us

    May 27, 2005
    I have two D* RCA boxes connected to 2 analog TV's one has a Tivo II connected with the outside antenna hooked to both RCA boxes. Will I have any problems when the switch over happens in June?
  16. Feb 1, 2009 #856 of 943

    CuriousMark Forum Denizen

    Jan 13, 2005
    What model DirecTV (D*) boxes?
  17. Feb 1, 2009 #857 of 943

    restart88 New Member

    Mar 9, 2002
    If I understand you right you certainly will have a problem. If by D* you mean you have 2 non-HD Direct TV satellite boxes and the outside antenna is for some or all of your your OTA channels you will need a converter box to receive the OTA signals, with the rare exception of a few exempted low power analog channels that may or may not be in your viewing area. I may have a few of them in my area but I have a hard time receiving them and rarely bother trying.

    OTOH you can get your Direct TV locals (assuming you have them) just fine.
  18. Feb 1, 2009 #858 of 943

    herfmonster technology squeezer

    Jul 12, 2006
    I am up and running on my Toshiba SD-H400 S2 using the Apex DT502 controlled with the IR blaster for a week now. So far no missed channels.

    Only gripe I have had so far is channel 35-1 SCETV not being strong enough. I thought it would be the stronger of the two. I will have to try 30-1 next week to see if I get a better signal. The shows I set my season passes for were extremely pixelated and had choppy audio. (Live in Lancaster SC)

    Overall I am pleased with it's performance and it was easy to set up.

    One thing I found out through my own stupidity (LOL) is do not try to adjust the settings on your set top box when you are fifteen minutes behind live TV in the buffer. I tried that and couldn't figure out why nothing was happening until all the buttons I pushed on the converter box remote started dancing on the screen fifteen minutes later when I caught up to that portion of the buffer. (Don't worry I kicked my own butt over that one.)
  19. Feb 6, 2009 #859 of 943

    renfroman New Member

    Feb 5, 2009
    I just had the Verizon Fios tv system installed yesterday. My one problem is with my bedroom Tivo unit. In the past (with Cablevision) I would simply split the coax, with one going direct to Tivo and the other one going direct to the cable set-top box.

    Now,with two boxes, I can only set up the Tivo so that it runs on one-tuner only. My first thought was to run one cable from the wall into the Tivo and the other to the box (same as the cable) -- no such luck.

    Nor do I think that I can run either two serial cables from the boxes to the Tivo -- nor do I think that I can run two IR blasters (with a split) to the two cable boxes.

    The two boxes I have are: the Motorola HDQip 7100-1 and the Motorola QIP 2500-3.

    Am I nuts? Am I missing something so simple that I'll kick myself when I find it out?

    Anybody have any ideas? I'd be truly grateful for any help.

  20. Feb 6, 2009 #860 of 943

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    A Series2 DT unit can only control one cable box. If you want to use dual tuners with a non-analog cable solution, you'll need to move up to a TiVo HD, HD XL or Series 3 unit and CableCARDs.

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