How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. Oct 2, 2008 #801 of 943
    TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    The Advance button (->|) above the number 3 works as the delimiter (dash/dot).

    I haven't checked to see if we've expired this yet. You should call in to find out what youre options are at this point.
     
  2. Oct 6, 2008 #802 of 943
    ronniejay

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    Sorry if already covered. I hooked up my Zenith DTT901 for a test. Did not do the guided setup, just viewing and manual recording, off of ch 3 of my tivo. The auto shut off appears to be a problem, especially after the tivo controls it. You must use "any button" for a max of 4 hrs, or it will power off. Obvious problem if you are away and want tivo to record something. Do you have to schedule a "dummy" 5 min recording every 4 hours to keep it alive?

    ... did what I should have done BEFORE posting, I did a search on here and one post mentioned "turning auto off "off". Sure enough, one choice on the zenith menu is auto off = "off". Fixed my problem.
     
  3. gastrof

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    Guys?

    Instead of me wading thru 800 posts, is there a particular post I could look for to know what IR codes a series 1 would already know that'd let it control a digital converter box? (Trying to help someone with a setup involving the "I have satellite with OTA tuner" fake.)
     
  4. ronniejay

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    This thread is all about series 2. This post listed all the series 2 codes for converter boxes supported: (hope this is useful)


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  5. classicsat

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    I think the RCA and LG boxes will work with a satellite lineup.
     
  6. fallingwater

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    I have no idea if this post from 8-24-2003 in the Help Center provides the info you're seeking but it's worth looking at:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128743
     
  7. gastrof

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  8. gastrof

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    Thanks.

    I figured maybe the Series 1s would have been updated over the years to control the same cable boxes the Series 2s do.

    Let's hope so, for both his sake and mine. (I'll be wanting to try this too. *grin*)
     
  9. DougF

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    I used the Hitachi DirecTV code to control the Radio Shack converter box.
     
  10. MikeRivers

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    Pardon the possibly naive question, but is your DTT901 on the list of supported boxes for your TiVo now? Or are you running it as "same as" something else?

    I have a Series 1 TiVo (Sony DVR-2000) and no subscription. I've been recording one channel at a shot using an Insignia DTV converter (same as the Zenith DTT900) and was about to investigate whether I could use the TiVo to change channels on it so I could program multi-channel recordings. I know how to make an "IR Blaster" but the trick is to find the right codes.

    There's a long list of tuner boxes, but since the TiVo hasn't been "legit" with a subscription since early this year, it doesn't know about my converter. I thought maybe a Zenith unit would be a good place to start, but when I select that from the setup list, it just gives me a phone number and tells me to call TiVo. Since I don't have a subscription, I don't expect that will get me anywhere.

    Any shortcuts? Or do I just have to start from the top and test them all until I find one that works enough to use?
     
  11. MikeRivers

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    To answer my own question, yes, it does work with the LG code set, and there aren't many choices either, just fast, medium, and slow. I have mine working with fast and it still takes several seconds to change channels, but it works. I had thought of LG shortly after I got back from Radio Shack with an IR diode, made up the cable, and found that none of the Zenith codes worked. I knew it was an LG product and should have looked there first.

    What I discovered is that it sends a preceding zero for single digit channels, and that can confuse the DTV converter because the sub-channel isn't specified. On the DTV remote, if I want, for example, the top level channel of the Channel 4 stack (Channel 4-1 in DTV language) I'd just hit the 4 button. It seems to be happy enough with 04 coming from the TiVo, but when you get into the two-digit channels, it interprets 26 as 2-6 and there ain't none, so it stays where it is.

    The trick is to enter 261, and that sends it to 26-1. In fact, this answered another question for me, that yes, it's possible to record any of the channels. If I want to record a program on 26-4, I enter that as Channel 264. Even though TiVo doesn't know what's on that channel, it still accepts it in the manual recording program.

    Pretty cool, actually.
     
  12. cia_viewer

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    My DTT901 might be treated as same as DTT900 because TiVo is not supporting the analog pass through feature of DTT901. My DTT901 is powered on 24/7 and controlled by my S2 TiVo via the IR Blaster.

    This is accomplished with updated software.

    The (hyphen/dot) delimiter for DTV sub-channels is accomplished by the tiny [->|] button at the right edge of the remote 3/8 inch below the fast forward [>>] button and 5/8 inch above the [3] button.
     
  13. Nov 5, 2008 #813 of 943
    herfmonster

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    I didn't see this answered here after 28 pages of thread, but can my Toshiba SD-H400 control a Tivax STB-T9 via the serial port?
     
  14. Nov 5, 2008 #814 of 943
    classicsat

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    Currently only IR is supported for the DTA converters.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2008 #815 of 943
    herfmonster

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    Any idea on weather or not that will be implemented? I seem to recall some people missing a season pass here or there because of of an IR blaster failure or mishap. Wouldn't the serial port be a more reliable control method?

    Currently I am deciding between a serial port channel changing capability (potentially)(for reliability, which I prefer) and S-Video output (for better picture)(It would be nice to have both)

    I am basically biding my time until I can get my Nero LiquidTV / TiVo PC box built
     
  16. Nov 5, 2008 #816 of 943
    magnus

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    Any details on the features? Will D* allow for the Tivo premium features on these boxes or are they going to be watered down like before?


     
  17. Nov 5, 2008 #817 of 943
    David_NC

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    Does the STB-T9 even have the capability of being controlled by the serial port? If the manufacturer didn't set it up for serial control, its doubtful Tivo would take the trouble to modify their software to use a third-party serial control hack.
     
  18. Nov 5, 2008 #818 of 943
    gastrof

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    Do the digital converter boxes even HAVE serial ports on them? My two (different brands) sure don't.

    Are TiVos being made to work with digital OTA tuners of all kinds, or just the "little" boxes meant to sort of rescue old TVs? The ones the government coupon program would apply to?
     
  19. Nov 6, 2008 #819 of 943
    herfmonster

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    The Tivax STB-T9 does have a serial port on back. So far I have only found two OTA converter boxes that do. I haven't researched all the approved boxes yet.

    Also... good question about non coupon boxes...I'd like to hear the answer to that one as well.
     
  20. Nov 6, 2008 #820 of 943
    TiVoJerry

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    1> magnus, i'm not in a position to answer your question. It also doesn't fit the discussion of this thread.

    2> We are not working on getting serial control to work with OTA boxes.

    3> Our main focus has only been on the models covered by a coupon. Now that the software is available to the public, we won't be proactively purchasing and testing models. Instead, it falls to CS (usually me) to work with individuals to capture IR and test before adding new codes. This process takes a bit longer and we will only focus on models currently for sale that are primarily intended for use as an OTA digital converter.
     

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