How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Thank you for clarifying...
     
  2. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    ??? The FCC does not want you to support OTA???

    Oh well, there are many things I do not understand.
     
  3. pcbrew

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    Not analog OTA, that's going away in Feb 2009 and the FCC did not want anybody selling TV's or other HW that supported only analog OTA after a certain date (Mar 1, 2007). Anything that has an analog TV tuner also had to have an ATSC (digital tuner).
     
  4. control-z

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    Just got my Tivax STB-T9 in the mail today. Little guy, neat unit.

    Got it up and running standalone no problem, then ran the guided setup on my S2 Tivo again. Whole thing took less than an hour, including wiring and everything. Very easy and smooth. You do need to tell it manually what channels you get though, it doesn't interrogate the digital tuner box.

    Now I have really nice (as nice as NTSC gets) picture on 20 or so digital channels. One wants to display with black bars on all sides, all other channels are fine.

    Oh, and you have to delete and redo your season passes, all the old season passes aren't on the "29-1" number format that digital channels use.
     
  5. mgrady

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    So I read thru all this thread tonight, because I called TiVo today.

    I have an S1 002, a S2DT-649 and a S2-590. I am OTA and Dish.

    When the yellow and blue store had the S2DT on sale, I got one. Then - I discovered it did not support OTA. So - I gave it to my daughter, who has cable. Lemons to lemonade. It was a perfect gift.

    My S2 590 (humax) died a few months ago, it was OTA + dish, so I just rewired all my coax, used IR transmitters and use just the one S1 002 with OTA and dish. Good enough. It's a lifetime box and my wife watches TV mostly OTA, so that's good enough. I'll zone out on "How it's made" in the den.

    Of course, my credit card still has the dead S2 590 on it, and I call to have it removed. TiVo rep says 'no can do'.

    1 year service agreement with a cancellation penalty. So it goes. I grit my teeth and pay. At least it wasn't a lifetime box.

    Now, I'm within two months of the expiration of the 1 year term, so I call today. Please remove the unit labeled 'dead TiVo'. Please and thank you.

    Rep says, ohhh, ahhh, you have been a good sub since the dawn of time. Rather than stop the sub, let me get you a S2DT for (a good price). I reply, but I'm Sat and OTA, DT won't work for me...

    Rep says, oh yes, this works fine. No worries. I reply: can I talk thru this with a super? SUPERVISOR: S2DT and OTA are fine now. No worries. We'll have that on the truck to you yet tonight Mr. Grady, and we are happy to serve you!

    So, I get one.

    Then tonight I read this thread, and conclude I'm buying another 'gift' TiVo that I won't be able to use. (I know I have 30 days to send it back..)

    OR, are the shipping S2 DT's some model other than prefix 649?

    As a side note, just thinking out loud... I do have an APEX DT250, so maybe I should just put some effort into fixing the S2-590 and send back the S2 DT that I bought today?

    'dazed and confused' Mark, TiVo sub since day 1 (or 2).
     
  6. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    Sorry to say that the rep and supe did not think things through very well. We only produce one standard definition dual tuner, the S2DT with the 649 prefix. If you'll send me a private message with your case number, I'll be happy to coach them on the error of their ways. I apologize for any confusion they have caused.
     
  7. Puppy76

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    mgrady, you mentioned your Humax S2 died. What happened with it? Mine's been running since I think February of '05. I really like it, though I'd really like a Tivo HD XL :D
     
  8. mgrady

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    It was setting vertically, (PS on top) got knocked over and the hard drive heads took a divot out of a platter. Oopsie. Resulted in a green screen of death. I should probably get a new drive and image from another unit. I just haven't looked down that path.

    I may try an Apex STB at a co-worker's house and see if that does the job. Moving backwards/sideways is a better direction than where I'm headed now. February is right around the corner, so I better have a better plan than I have now.

    My original (but hacked) S1 212 with 2 drives and turbocache card is still going, knock on wood. It will be a dark day when I have to put the lil' fella down next year.
     
  9. mgrady

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    They meant well. Sent you a PM with the 411. You are awesome on this forum. ding-ding-ding all thumbs up for you.

    Just an observation, but it does seem that OTA digital and Sat is a kind of a big hole in the product lineup.
    I was sort of holding out for something... something with HD and SAT.

    I have Dish, but antique receivers, and their DVR is soooo way not better than TiVo.
    I have no interest in paying Dish for locals, and for DVR and so on and so forth.

    mg
     
  10. Puppy76

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    Oh wow, so even at it's age it wasn't really a hardware failure per se :)

    I know my 590 Tivo gets WAY more use than my two VCRs did, was cheaper than one of them (including service), and has lasted waaaaaaaay longer. :)
     
  11. ronniejay

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    I filed for 2 DTV coupons on 9/5 and got a mail date of 9/19. They got here yesterday. Off to CIRCUIT CITY to use some gift cards I won to pick up 2 Zenith boxes for my tivo.
     
  12. cia_viewer

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    YES! My Zenith DTT901 works quite well. I wish I could exchange my Magnavox TB100MG9 for another Zenith DTT901.
     
  13. Puppy76

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    What's wrong with your Magnavox? I'm got two of them, and they seem to work well. (Unless they had multiple models or something. Mine are from K-Mart.)
     
  14. TiVoJerry

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    Hence our excitement over the recent announcement that our partnership with DTV has taken an exciting turn.
     
  15. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    TiVoJerry, any way you can give us a teaser..? Will the new box be based on current DirecTV hardware? Or will this be a box designed by TiVo similar to the old DirecTiVo's?
     
  16. TiVoJerry

    TiVoJerry Ex-Caavo employee (Ex-TiVo, '00-'16)

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    Being in CS, I don't really have any details to give. Even if I did, I'm sure I couldn't say anything. The marketing guys get to do all the teasing and pleasing. :p
     
  17. Oct 1, 2008 #797 of 943
    cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    My Magnavox TB100MG9 is from Sears 'ALL SALES FINAL'.
    One of our more important stations we can receive in analog only because they are not 'broadcasting' their DTV signal from a tower.

    By using the menu system of the Magnavox TB100MG9 one can get analog pass through. My simply holding a button down you can revert to digital TV.
    To switch back to analog you MUST go through the same menu process AGAIN each time!

    All CECBs touting ATP Analog Pass Through should work like our Zenith DTT901: Pressing a button on the remote simply switches back and forth between On (DTV) and Standby (Analog Pass Through).

    That is what is wrong with my Magnavox TB100MG9 !
     
  18. Oct 2, 2008 #798 of 943
    mgrady

    mgrady New Member

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    Just to wrap up my original post, I InstantCaked my S2-590 with a 500, hooked it up to an Apex DSTB and dish.

    TiVoJerry is awesome, got a new software push, ran guided setup and it's all good.

    Still not sure how to tune a sub channel from the remote (like 22-2), but it works from the guide, and it records OTA awesome.

    I'm moving my old S1 to my office where I have cable, sort of putting it out to pasture...

    Mark
     
  19. Oct 2, 2008 #799 of 943
    TiVoJedi

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    For some reason the TiVo DTV2009 HDTiVo offer I had weeks ago now shows I am 'in the clear' and that I have an HDTiVo. I don't have an HD TiVo! I didn't take the offer weeks ago when it showed for my TSN. My S1 Phillips actually died last night. I was debating replacing the drive or actually taking the offer, but now I can't take the offer. :(
    Although the HDTiVo doesn't work with satellite I have been reconsidering accepting the offer.
     
  20. Oct 2, 2008 #800 of 943
    classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    It does nothing for non DirecTV (or potenetial non DirecTV) subscribers that for whatever reason cannot or will not get cable/cablecards or DirecTV. Meaning, we need an HD TiVo that records from an HD STB from our provider.

    Note I am in Canada, where DirecTV is not a (legal anyways) option.
     

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