How will Tivo Series 2 sets be able to tune the upcoming DTV Broadcast Converters?

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  1. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Single tuner Series 1/2s support two boxes fine , so long as one is satellite.
     
  2. magnus

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    Ok, but how can they control more than 1 box at a time? With serial and IR cables??

    And would the option of satellite (w/ box) and OTA (w/ box) be an option on the new software?

     
  3. David_NC

    David_NC New Member

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    There are 2 emitters on the IR blaster cable - use one emitter for each box, and you can control two boxes, as long as they don't use the same IR codes (both emitters send the same codes, but each box will only respond to its own IR code, and ignore anything else). Don't know if its possible to set one up for serial, and the other for IR blaster.
     
  4. restart88

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    Like I said I did remove the sat channels from my receive list.

    It's actually not so cool since it won't be recording anything from the sat channel since there's no sat locals.

    It's one DBS receiver and one D/A converter box. I suppose if I had sat locals it wouldn't be a big deal.

    For clarification this is not my S2DT that works perfectly well with the work-around. This is my 540 acting up.
     
  5. magnus

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    Oh, that's interesting. I never knew that. I wonder if they put the ability to do that with new software. Satellite and OTA on same box.

     
  6. restart88

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    You need ver 9.3.1 and a link for the priority list is a few posts back in this thread I believe. I got my update within 24 hours of my request.

    Just to clarify this does not work with S2DT. It's only for boxes that have analog OTA tuners built in.
     
  7. classicsat

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    Don't get.

    Electronically, the blaster is one device connected to one circuit. Both emitter LEDs blast the same signal.

    The software chooses what input (RF or A/V) and blaster code to use. It is incumbent on the boxes to use non conflicting codes to prevent conflicts, although it shouldn't matter, since the other box is not used, unless the conflicting code does weird things to it that make it unusable when it is needed again.

    Single tuners models have supported two boxes for a very long time.

    ! the exception is units with the TiVo Basic service. My understanding is they can only be set up for only one source when operating in TiVo Basic mode. Dual source mode requires a Plus subscription on those models.
     
  8. Puppy76

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    Sorry-for some reason I haven't gotten updates for this thread. Is the update to support converter boxes out? I know it was in beta. I've got a Magnavox box, and I guess I'm planning on testing this out as soon as it's available, and then canceling cable after a week or two of making sure it works.
     
  9. classicsat

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    At this point it time, it is out, but only if you are on the prority list, or one that think ought to have it early for some reason.
     
  10. TheGreenHornet

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    Puppy:
    I got the digital conversion box update early last week without requesting it! Per my previous post last week - I noticed that the daily update was taking forever on the phone. When it was done - the system information said "pending restart" - which was my cue to do so. And boom - there it was - ready for the converter box installation. Set up is a snap taking the usual menu shuffle setup time.

    My 13 year old Sony Triniton and series 2 works great together! The down converted to analog signal is better than the miserable analog signal I was paying for from Comcast.

    Sidenote: I just got a greeting card from Comcast saying they were sad to see me go and that they lost me as a customer. Comcast has a survey company calling daily to find out why I left as a customer. I do not answer their call. I often wonder just how many defections Comcast really has due to their customers upgrading to free OTA television. They never mention OTA when in the press they blame Verizon FIOS for taking their customers.
     
  11. bgiannes

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    got 9.3.1 install, (been waiting a long time for it). i have an 'insignia' digial converter box. which i selected during setup.... (Tivo servies 2 single tunner)

    the channeling is very touchy, it only works 75% of the time? It ends up changing to some wrong channel, it seems that sometimes the convert dosen't have time to see what Tivo is trying to enter, or the " - " ends up in the wrong place? eg trying for channel 40-1 and i get 4-1..... or going for 50-4 and i get 54-1 or even 4-1??? :(

    i tended to have more luck with the channel up down button, which if you go slow (ie wait until the menu bar goes away) its about 90% correct. But it doen't seem to like 'hi' sub channels like 5-5 or 50-4, 50-5 etc.


    evey now and again it finds a blank channel and gets itself stuck!? then i need the converter's remote to change the channel back to sometime like 2-1


    (tonight i'm going to try setup IR code "10075-B" for it) what the hec....

    [oh and yes the IR blasters are in the correct location, as i was running a "fake/cable setup as a work around" which changed channels just fine a day ago]


    oh and another thing.... when i select a channel from the guide screen and the tivo correctly changes the channel, the Tivo pop up menu displays the wrong channel and info? eg i select channel 50-1 Tivo goes to 50-1 but the tivo menu displays 2-1? this is not a good thing!


    another thing.... sorry for rambling.... some TV shows in the guide show very big episode data? eg friends was on and the guide said it was episode 5124? other tv shows displayed simular wrong data?

    any other ideas, help?

    lucky i waited until the olympics where over before loading 9.3.1...
     
  12. restart88

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    At first I only noticed a problem when switching between DBS & converter but have lately noticed this problem when just switching between converter channels. I think your guess of 75% is about right. I might even claim as much as 85% success. But of course that 15% failure is even too high if you have a lot of Season Passes.
     
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  14. classicsat

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    No, you enter the code in the advanced IR channel changing options.
     
  15. bgiannes

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    i tryed 10075B... but then i was getting errors so i'm now using 10090A (default was 10090?)

    in the last day i think i'm at 99% channel changing to the correct number :) the season passes are all working well...


    note: the tivo menu (displays channel 2-1) when the channel is 1st changed, but when you press "info" the correct info is shown... only somethings the metadata is missing all together.... but still shows up in the guide....

    tivo must be sorting thing out?...


    anyone know how to enter the " - " on the tivo remote? or is it just not supported?
     
  16. larkor

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    The "-" input is the advance button. My remote code is 10090B. It might be a little faster than 10090A.
     
  17. cia_viewer

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    I do not know where to take this question:
    I have used TiVo Desktop 2.6.1 to copy one of several programs from my HD-TiVo to my WinXP PC.

    I have downloaded MPEG_Streamclip_1.2 with QuickTimeAlt181
    as well as TyTool10r4

    I also have Roxio Creator LE...

    I am lost in this 'tower of babel'! I am out of my league with video files.

    The programs are on my PC as *.tivo files. I want to put them on DVDs in a usable form for later viewing on my DVD Player (Sony SONDVPNS725P).

    Help, Please!
     
  18. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    If they are SD programs, use DirectShowDump to decrypt them, then run them through TyTools (make key files, cut files, then process to VOBs), then bur VOBs to DVD with Roxio (I do the same, but from a Series 2, and use Nero instead of Roxio).
     
  19. bgiannes

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    mmm... but i'm using the advance button for 30sec skip... can it do both?
     
  20. Shawn95GT

    Shawn95GT Tivo, in HD!

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    yup!

    Get a GLO remote if you want the graphic :). All it is is the (-) mark above the button.

    detailed pic here:
    http://dynamic.tivo.com/resources/images/series3/Series3HD_remote_on_wht_rgb.jpg

    I could swear my THD remote had the graphic too but I use a GLO for it right now - I'll have to see if I can find the THD's remote!
     

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